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Jul 24, 2023 15:50:08   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
The below article describes what the Conservative Party is up to in Israel, it is not so different than many of the changes that the left in this country has demanded be made to our Judiciary here in the United States. Thankfully we have a constitution that would prevent the majority of the measures currently being passed in Israel.


Israel’s Parliament Passes Law Weakening Supreme Court

By Zachary Stieber
July 24, 2023Updated: July 24, 2023

Israel’s parliament on July 24 approved a law that limits the Israeli Supreme Court’s ability to challenge parliamentary decisions.

The law includes a provision that prevents judges from striking down government decisions on the basis that they’re “extremely unreasonable.” The law taking effect would mean that the Supreme Court wouldn’t be able to review decisions, such as the termination of officials, on grounds of being unreasonable.

The law, part of a plan backed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that would change the judiciary, was passed in a 64–0 v**e after opponents walked out rather than v****g against it. The first procedural v**e was 64–56.

Justice Minister Yariv Levin, the architect of the plan, said parliament had taken the “first step in an important historic process” of overhauling the judiciary.

Other parts of the plan include a bill that would let a majority of the parliament overturn Supreme Court decisions and a law that would enable parliament to select judges.

The Movement for Quality Government, which opposes the law, quickly asked the country’s highest court to act against the law over it allegedly being unconstitutional.

“The government of destruction has raised its malicious hand against the State of Israel, and they are threatening to destroy everything we have built here in the last seventy-five years,” Eliad Shraga, the movement’s chairman, said in a statement.

Mr. Netanyahu, 73, and his allies say the changes are needed to curb the powers of unelected judges and restore the balance of the three branches of government.

Critics say they’re unnecessary and fueled by personal and political grievances of Mr. Netanyahu—who’s on trial for corruption charges—and his partners.

Demonstrators have protested against the planned changes, including blocking a road leading to parliament. Some companies, including gas stations, closed in protest ahead of the v**e. And thousands of military reservists have declared their refusal to serve.

“We are headed for disaster,” Yair Lapid, leader of the opposition in the parliament, said before the law was approved.

According to the Times of Israel, Mr. Lapid said after the v**e: “This is a complete breaking of the rules of the game. The government and coalition can choose what direction the state goes in, but it can’t decide the character of the state.”

Mr. Netanyahu’s supporters thronged central Tel Aviv to show support for the planned changes to the judiciary while he decried the military trying to force the government’s hand.

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U.S. President Joe Biden, whose Democratic party favors limiting the power of the U.S. Supreme Court, has said that Israel should work to form a consensus behind the overhaul.

“Given the range of threats and challenges confronting Israel right now, it doesn’t make sense for Israeli leaders to rush this—the focus should be on pulling people together and finding consensus,” Mr. Biden told media outlets in a statement.

Mr. Biden and Mr. Netanyahu discussed the issue during a call in July.

Mr. Netanyahu paused the overhaul in March after intense pressure from protesters and labor strikes that halted outgoing flights and shut down parts of the economy. After talks to find a compromise failed, he said his government was pressing on with the overhaul.

“We entered into a continuous dialogue for three months. The coalition made a number of proposals to the opposition, proposal after proposal for three months, continuously. But, to my great sorrow, the hand that was extended to the leaders of the opposition was left in the air,” Mr. Netanyahu said in a statement.

Mr. Lapid said this week that negotiators weren’t able to reach an agreement.

“Our main condition was to protect Israeli democracy, but with this government, it is impossible to reach agreements that preserve Israeli democracy,” Mr. Lapid told reporters, according to local media.

Israeli President Isaac Herzog said in a brief statement on July 24 that officials were “working around the clock” to find a solution to the gap between the parties.

“The citizens of Israel are thirsting for hope, and expect responsibility and leadership,” he said. “During these decisive hours, I call on elected officials to act with courage, and to reach out in order to arrive at understanding.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Jul 24, 2023 19:21:54   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Thank God we have Ginni Thomas to interpret the document.

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Jul 24, 2023 20:02:05   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Texcaster wrote:
Thank God we have Ginni Thomas to interpret the document.


Stupid!

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Jul 25, 2023 05:08:54   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Stupid!


If we can keep our constitution. Trump, like Netanyahu, is only too happy to change the constitution a la minority- party-rule ... GOPer poster boy ... Viktor Orbán.

“What we are fighting is a one-party state built by Orbán; it’s h**e campaigns against different minorities: the L**T community, the Roma community, but also Jews and different other minorities and certain persons,” he said, naming Soros.

Since Orbán returned to power in 2010, he has won three straight e******ns, victories that have allowed him to rewrite Hungary’s constitution, fill courts and public bodies with Fidesz party loyalists, and put the squeeze on independent media. After nearly a decade in power, Hungary in 2019 became the first EU member state to be ranked as “partly free” by the US monitoring group Freedom House.

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Jul 25, 2023 07:22:18   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Texcaster wrote:
If we can keep our constitution. Trump, like Netanyahu, is only too happy to change the constitution a la minority- party-rule ... GOPer poster boy ... Viktor Orbán.

“What we are fighting is a one-party state built by Orbán; it’s h**e campaigns against different minorities: the L**T community, the Roma community, but also Jews and different other minorities and certain persons,” he said, naming Soros.

Since Orbán returned to power in 2010, he has won three straight e******ns, victories that have allowed him to rewrite Hungary’s constitution, fill courts and public bodies with Fidesz party loyalists, and put the squeeze on independent media. After nearly a decade in power, Hungary in 2019 became the first EU member state to be ranked as “partly free” by the US monitoring group Freedom House.
If we can keep our constitution. Trump, like Netan... (show quote)


Well of course Trump never said that and one of the great features of our constitution is that amendments have to be ratified by the states.

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Jul 25, 2023 08:43:32   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
Actually, Trump did call for the termination of the Constitution.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Trump wrote in response to Elon Musk's "Twitter Files."

Newsweek

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Jul 25, 2023 09:05:44   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Rac, in response to Texcaster, Blurry and gorgehiker comments would write… “lol, you liar, Trump never SAID that.” Which would be correct, because Trump WROTE gorgehiker’s reference.

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Jul 25, 2023 10:08:50   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Texcaster wrote:
If we can keep our constitution. Trump, like Netanyahu, is only too happy to change the constitution a la minority- party-rule ... GOPer poster boy ... Viktor Orbán.

“What we are fighting is a one-party state built by Orbán; it’s h**e campaigns against different minorities: the L**T community, the Roma community, but also Jews and different other minorities and certain persons,” he said, naming Soros.

Since Orbán returned to power in 2010, he has won three straight e******ns, victories that have allowed him to rewrite Hungary’s constitution, fill courts and public bodies with Fidesz party loyalists, and put the squeeze on independent media. After nearly a decade in power, Hungary in 2019 became the first EU member state to be ranked as “partly free” by the US monitoring group Freedom House.
If we can keep our constitution. Trump, like Netan... (show quote)


Hey Tex, you asked in another thread for me to point out your lies. Well here is the 2nd one and all in just a few minutes.

It is the LYING corrupt Left Wingers who are doing their best to change the Constitution, to remove or change the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendments to the Constitution. We see this every day where you on the Left do your best to disallow Conservative speakers on college campuses, when you are doing all you can to modify or eliminate the 2nd Amendment. The anti American Democratic Party is pushing for more Red F**g laws whereby a person who owns firearms can have those firearms taken away without due process and where the owner is not necessarily allowed in the hearing just because someone tells a law enforcement official they think the firearm owner might be dangerous and owns firearms. That could be all it takes. WOW!!!!! Just like living in C*******t China or another of the Left Wing's STATE countries where rights are a thing of the past. As for the 5th Amendment it seems to be used by the likes of the Left Wing corrupt IRS lady, Lois Lerner, who screwed over Conservatives but had no problem claiming the 5th Amendment to save her ass. Yet a Left Wing prosecutor openly asked Kyle Rittenhouse why he claimed the 5th Amendment. Of course the prosecutor had to be informed by the judge that the 5th Amendment was a Constitutional RIGHT.

You keep up the good work lil Tex. Lying and corruption are all in a day's or lifetime's work for you and your Socialist side of the aisle.

Dennis

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Jul 25, 2023 15:03:49   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
gorgehiker wrote:
Actually, Trump did call for the termination of the Constitution.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Trump wrote in response to Elon Musk's "Twitter Files."

Newsweek


So, aren't you glad that there was a constitution that would not allow for his rantings to actually be acted upon? Do you not see the protection of our form of government that the constitution affords the people of this country. This is why most republicans do not ascribe to the living document theory, if there need be change we do have Article 5.

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Jul 25, 2023 15:44:16   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Hey Tex, you asked in another thread for me to point out your lies. Well here is the 2nd one and all in just a few minutes.

It is the LYING corrupt Left Wingers who are doing their best to change the Constitution, to remove or change the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendments to the Constitution. We see this every day where you on the Left do your best to disallow Conservative speakers on college campuses, when you are doing all you can to modify or eliminate the 2nd Amendment. The anti American Democratic Party is pushing for more Red F**g laws whereby a person who owns firearms can have those firearms taken away without due process and where the owner is not necessarily allowed in the hearing just because someone tells a law enforcement official they think the firearm owner might be dangerous and owns firearms. That could be all it takes. WOW!!!!! Just like living in C*******t China or another of the Left Wing's STATE countries where rights are a thing of the past. As for the 5th Amendment it seems to be used by the likes of the Left Wing corrupt IRS lady, Lois Lerner, who screwed over Conservatives but had no problem claiming the 5th Amendment to save her ass. Yet a Left Wing prosecutor openly asked Kyle Rittenhouse why he claimed the 5th Amendment. Of course the prosecutor had to be informed by the judge that the 5th Amendment was a Constitutional RIGHT.

You keep up the good work lil Tex. Lying and corruption are all in a day's or lifetime's work for you and your Socialist side of the aisle.

Dennis
Hey Tex, you asked in another thread for me to poi... (show quote)


Take two aspìrin and have a lie down.

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Jul 25, 2023 16:56:11   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Texcaster wrote:
Take two aspìrin and have a lie down.


You never disappoint in your CLOWN act. I appreciate your consistency anyway. Here I definitely DID point out your lies and you come back with more bulls**t i***tic clown material. Truly that is all you are good for. Ok, well maybe whining, b***hing and complaining like a little girl too.

Dennis

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Jul 25, 2023 18:42:27   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You never disappoint in your CLOWN act. I appreciate your consistency anyway. Here I definitely DID point out your lies and you come back with more bulls**t i***tic clown material. Truly that is all you are good for. Ok, well maybe whining, b***hing and complaining like a little girl too.

Dennis


"Take two aspirin and have a lie down Capt'n." Bronco Billy to the punk sheriff.

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Jul 25, 2023 22:22:18   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
So, aren't you glad that there was a constitution that would not allow for his rantings to actually be acted upon? Do you not see the protection of our form of government that the constitution affords the people of this country. This is why most republicans do not ascribe to the living document. there need be change we do have Article 5.


Yes, I am definitely very relieved and thankful that there are still some Republicans who stepped up and honored the Constitution. My fear is that the next time Trump loses things might go differently and the crazies will be in control and they will not honor the Constitution.

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Jul 25, 2023 22:55:19   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Texcaster wrote:
"Take two aspirin and have a lie down Capt'n." Bronco Billy to the punk sheriff.


Yeah, of course you have nothing to say except to keep up with the i***tic Clown routine. You asked me to point out lies you have told. I did and accurately so too. But you, rather than apologize, admit to making a mistake, you do your best to just gloss over the bulls**t with a fine coat of even more bulls**t and then ignore it completely. How common that technique is abundant throughout the lying corrupt Democratic Socialist Party you support. When confronted with accusations of lies you double down on the lies or simply deflect and make jokes. Sorry Bucko but the joke is on you/you ARE the joke, the CLOWN.

Dennis

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Jul 25, 2023 22:58:04   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
gorgehiker wrote:
Yes, I am definitely very relieved and thankful that there are still some Republicans who stepped up and honored the Constitution. My fear is that the next time Trump loses things might go differently and the crazies will be in control and they will not honor the Constitution.


Are you really, honestly trying to tell us it is the Republicans who want to take our rights away from us instead of your own lying corrupt party who has been right out front of taking our rights away from American citizens?

If that is truly what you believe, I have a couple of bridges across the country to sell at very good prices.

Please be specific and tell us, what rights in the Constitution are the Republicans trying to take from citizens.

Dennis

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