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Nov 19, 2012 09:59:51   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
Wow, gee...Folks calling me a moron and stuff because I forwarded ( DID YOU READ THAT - FORWARDED ) something that was sent to me and I thought was interesting.

But, to tell you the ABSOLUTE truth, I really don't give a rat's azz about any muslim in their own country.

Know why? Most of those countries have OIL FIELDS. Did you notice ?

And the governments are filthy rich...DID YOU NOTICE ???

But the scenes on television don't show too much of that wealth EXCEPT for the leaders palaces and their yachts while the people sleep with their camels and sip coffee wrapped in their robes with dirty scruffy faces and have a celebration everytime a christian dies or is tortured.

BUT IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE ????? Show an interview where a crowd of Muslims protest a bombing or a killing of a christian or MUSLIM that opposses the rulers !!!

How come those coutries charge us 80 to 100 dollars for a barrell of their oil and we're charging 7 to 10 dollars for a barrel of wheat to feed their people. How about even-steven for a few years ?

How about cutting off all the monetary aid they get from America for a couple years?

Pakistan doctors in the U.S. ? Oh my, why aren't they in their own country helping their masses ? Instead they come here to the U.S. and make their millions. WONDER WHY ?

That much I can say IS MY (SARGE69) view and observations.

You want to flame me or call me a moron, you go right ahead, BECAUSE I HAVE A BRAIN whereas most of the liberal GOODY TWO SHOES CAN'T SEE PAST THEIR GLORIFIED LOVE CLOUDED EYE BALLS.

Sarge69
NOTE: I wasn't going to post this because it might offend someone...BUT....I don't give a schmitt about your feelings.

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Nov 19, 2012 10:10:27   #
overthemoon Loc: Wisconsin
 
I didn't call you a moron hate is hate . You posted information from an email that gavre wrong information. It's letters like this that cause race profiling. My daughter is biracial and looks very much Muslim because of false information and fear from people like your friend and from what I can tell from some of your post say and write when she was traveling she was put through hell Letters like you posted have consequences it feeds into our human fears and makes people think they are justified in there words and actions. In All cultures there are bad people to this day the kkk hangs people to prove their point about how much they hate black people. I can't tell you how many times when traveling with my girls some of the hateful things done to us by white people. Hate isn't conservative or liberal it's hate and is used by people who can't get a grip on their own fears.

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Nov 19, 2012 10:36:30   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
And futhermore - Check the message...There is no HATE in that message, there are QUESTIONS....Did anyone answer them ?

I don't mean answer with another question or drifting off the subject either....Answer in your own mind the question.

Sarge69

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Nov 19, 2012 10:41:03   #
overthemoon Loc: Wisconsin
 
sarge69 wrote:
And futhermore - Check the message...There is no HATE in that message, there are QUESTIONS....Did anyone answer them ?

I don't mean answer with another question or drifting off the subject either....Answer in your own mind the question.

Sarge69


The questions where answered by 2 people and done well how you don't see this is as hateful is beyond me. I promise and not that your heart will be broken to stay away from your post. Negative post towards your wife are also not great

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Nov 19, 2012 10:59:47   #
donrent Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
 
overthemoon stated:
" My daughter is biracial and looks very much Muslim because of false information "..
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OK, just HOW does false info from someone else make her look like a Muslim ???
False info AND true info cannot make ANYONE like a certain race... Does she dress like one ???
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Also sez:
In All cultures there are bad people to this day the kkk hangs people to prove their point about how much they hate black people.
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Would you please show me "to this day" any episode of this happening !!!
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Also: " I can't tell you how many times when traveling with my girls some of the hateful things done to us by white people."
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OK, and what were they ???
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Also: " hateful things done to us by white people."
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Doesn't THAT also sound a tad racist ????????????

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Nov 19, 2012 12:18:00   #
Ron M Loc: Kitchener Ontario Canada
 
A Canadian's viewpoint

Couldn't agree more with Sarge's view - Keep it coming Sarge, more of us need to speak up on matters like this.
We bend over backwards to accommodate their beliefs - Would they do that for us in their country, I think not.
We change our traditions so they won't be offended - Prime example in Canada is allowing the wearing of a turban in place of the standard Royal Canadian Mounted Police hat.
We change holiday greetings so we won't offend them - Notice that most places are replacing Merry Christmas with Happy Holidays?


The list could go on forever.
Anybody have the balls to add to it.

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Nov 19, 2012 12:26:40   #
Ron M Loc: Kitchener Ontario Canada
 
Q: What's the best thing to come out of a Muslim country.

A: An empty airplane.

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Nov 19, 2012 12:46:08   #
overthemoon Loc: Wisconsin
 
donrent wrote:
overthemoon stated:
" My daughter is biracial and looks very much Muslim because of false information "..
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OK, just HOW does false info from someone else make her look like a Muslim ???
False info AND true info cannot make ANYONE like a certain race... Does she dress like one ???
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Also sez:











Skin head Peduca kentuckey I came Into McDonald with 4 brown teens skin head mama you are very lucky I don't have my friends with us

Wisconsin north walk into a grocery store they asked us to leave

Macon ga gas station with my dad waited in line to pay for my stuff with my daughter wouldnt take out money

Cornfest in Iowa look that white women is carrying a Niger baby.

I have many more but I think that makes the point.

The reason words are bad when passed on is because it spreads the hate it says it's ok to be hateful. On this forum I see it's ok to spread hate if you do t agree with stuff or dream up consperacys. I am guessing because so are of an older generation maybe there is less tolerance for people or there is nothing better to do.






In All cultures there are bad people to this day the kkk hangs people to prove their point about how much they hate black people.
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Would you please show me "to this day" any episode of this happening !!!
========================================================

Also: " I can't tell you how many times when traveling with my girls some of the hateful things done to us by white people."
===
OK, and what were they ???
========================================================

Also: " hateful things done to us by white people."
==
Doesn't THAT also sound a tad racist ????????????
overthemoon stated: br " My daughter is birac... (show quote)

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Nov 19, 2012 12:48:14   #
overthemoon Loc: Wisconsin
 
Ron M wrote:
A Canadian's viewpoint

Couldn't agree more with Sarge's view - Keep it coming Sarge, more of us need to speak up on matters like this.
We bend over backwards to accommodate their beliefs - Would they do that for us in their country, I think not.
We change our traditions so they won't be offended - Prime example in Canada is allowing the wearing of a turban in place of the standard Royal Canadian Mounted Police hat.
We change holiday greetings so we won't offend them - Notice that most places are replacing Merry Christmas with Happy Holidays?


The USA is many cultures and many races we need to be inclusive


The list could go on forever.
Anybody have the balls to add to it.
A Canadian's viewpoint br br Couldn't agree more ... (show quote)

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Nov 19, 2012 12:52:54   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
Excuse me.

Who is talking about strange looks etc because some might LOOK like a muslim ?

Let me say, and I'm sorry for your daughter, if someone slaps you once, you're supposed to turn the other cheek. That's two

Well FOUR airplanes (think of slaps) with hundreds of people of all nationalities and faiths slammed into a building with people employed there from a multitude of countries and thousands died.

Go to an airport and see how folks look at a MUSLIM or someone that looks like a Muslim. The thought of 9/11 is not going to go away easily.

Let's tell it like it is for once as was just said in a previous post. Being nice only gets you slapped more.

Did you ever hear of ' Last guys end up last ?' I don't want America to be the last guy.

Sarge69

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Nov 19, 2012 13:07:13   #
donrent Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
 
Would someone please tell me really what "overthemoon" is saying .....

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Nov 19, 2012 13:15:45   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
donrent wrote:
Would someone please tell me really what "overthemoon" is saying .....


She is letting us know that her bi-racial child looks like a Muslim (father not identified) and is the subject of looks, possible comments and is uncomfortable with the stares she gets.

At least that is what I think she said. As always, I could be wrong again.

Yours

Sarge69

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Nov 19, 2012 13:16:57   #
overthemoon Loc: Wisconsin
 
sarge69 wrote:
Excuse me.

Who is talking about strange looks etc because some might LOOK like a muslim ?

Let me say, and I'm sorry for your daughter, if someone slaps you once, you're supposed to turn the other cheek. That's two

Well FOUR airplanes (think of slaps) with hundreds of people of all nationalities and faiths slammed into a building with people employed there from a multitude of countries and thousands died.





You talk like all Muslims in this country are bad and like America has never had a terrible history with chinese, black people, women, we have killed many of our own people considering the terrorist are the ones that killed all those people they are no different then the skin heads,and the kkk in this country or the young kids shooting randomly in high schools. Good Muslim people didn't do this things to our country and do you Americans are free from doing horrible things to Muslims. America the perfect. We live in a great country but we are not free from the blood shed. The revolutionary war is a prime example of that. Just like many countries in the world we enslaved humans bought and sold them and beat them raped them we treated humans worse then we do animals. So you base your ideas on a very scary time in our history when we where invaded by terrorist. The word is terrorist a radical group that prays on human fear. Terrorist have nothing to do with the Muslim people or there faith. They are people like us that have a culture, family, religion and work hard so there kids can grow up to be productive people. The reason I have a hard time with words spoken or written that are toxic is because it's not forgotten. The news has a huge impact on how people have fear towards other humans.what we see on tv is a few min of info that translates into our brains quickly. News on tv doesn't give the positive side to a culture. I to had some fear of Muslim people because of terrorist. It took a lot in me to remember to not make judgements based on a terrible act done by crazy people. My ethnic experiences have been mostly positive and I have
Had many and i also have had negative ones. I also have had many positive experiences with white people and it catches me off guard when I run into negative encounters. On this sight I have seen so much discontent with humans that it's a bit of an eye opener. Why, why is it so hard to see there are two sides to human kind there are extremest in Every country and in America we do have extemest. We don't have perfect people.






Go to an airport and see how folks look at a MUSLIM or someone that looks like a Muslim. The thought of 9/11 is not going to go away easily.

Let's tell it like it is for once as was just said in a previous post. Being nice only gets you slapped more.

Did you ever hear of ' Last guys end up last ?' I don't want America to be the last guy.

Sarge69
Excuse me. br br Who is talking about strange loo... (show quote)

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Nov 19, 2012 13:44:41   #
overthemoon Loc: Wisconsin
 
sarge69 wrote:
donrent wrote:
Would someone please tell me really what "overthemoon" is saying .....


She is letting us know that her bi-racial child looks like a Muslim (father not identified) and is the subject of looks, possible comments and is uncomfortable with the stares she gets.

At least that is what I think she said. As always, I could be wrong again.

Yours

Sarge69



My Childs father is black and the point is, my family has had hateful things done and said and usually by white people who dislike brow skin humans. The comments made in that letter are not much different from the point of view of other white people when we travel. I think All races need to be responsible for the words they use because words have consequences. Muslims in this country have made contributions just like many cultures have. The letter makes a point that Muslims don't make contributions. Your friend strongly dislikes Muslims and has done a great job to be hateful and some people came out to support this letter. Don't you think it would be better served to not spread false info on a WHOLE group of people.

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Nov 19, 2012 13:52:27   #
overthemoon Loc: Wisconsin
 
overthemoon wrote:
sarge69 wrote:
Excuse me.

Who is talking about strange looks etc because some might LOOK like a muslim ?

Let me say, and I'm sorry for your daughter, if someone slaps you once, you're supposed to turn the other cheek. That's two

Well FOUR airplanes (think of slaps) with hundreds of people of all nationalities and faiths slammed into a building with people employed there from a multitude of countries and thousands died.





You talk like all Muslims in this country are bad and like America has never had a terrible history with chinese, black people, women, we have killed many of our own people considering the terrorist are the ones that killed all those people they are no different then the skin heads,and the kkk in this country or the young kids shooting randomly in high schools. Good Muslim people didn't do this things to our country and do you Americans are free from doing horrible things to Muslims. America the perfect. We live in a great country but we are not free from the blood shed. The revolutionary war is a prime example of that. Just like many countries in the world we enslaved humans bought and sold them and beat them raped them we treated humans worse then we do animals. So you base your ideas on a very scary time in our history when we where invaded by terrorist. The word is terrorist a radical group that prays on human fear. Terrorist have nothing to do with the Muslim people or there faith. They are people like us that have a culture, family, religion and work hard so there kids can grow up to be productive people. The reason I have a hard time with words spoken or written that are toxic is because it's not forgotten. The news has a huge impact on how people have fear towards other humans.what we see on tv is a few min of info that translates into our brains quickly. News on tv doesn't give the positive side to a culture. I to had some fear of Muslim people because of terrorist. It took a lot in me to remember to not make judgements based on a terrible act done by crazy people. My ethnic experiences have been mostly positive and I have
Had many and i also have had negative ones. I also have had many positive experiences with white people and it catches me off guard when I run into negative encounters. On this sight I have seen so much discontent with humans that it's a bit of an eye opener. Why, why is it so hard to see there are two sides to human kind there are extremest in Every country and in America we do have extemest. We don't have perfect people.






Go to an airport and see how folks look at a MUSLIM or someone that looks like a Muslim. The thought of 9/11 is not going to go away easily.

Let's tell it like it is for once as was just said in a previous post. Being nice only gets you slapped more.

Did you ever hear of ' Last guys end up last ?' I don't want America to be the last guy.

Sarge69
Excuse me. br br Who is talking about strange loo... (show quote)
quote=sarge69 Excuse me. br br Who is talking ab... (show quote)


I don't think it will go away easilwy either. It scares the crap out of me but those where terrorist none rational people who did horriable things to this country and they still are because now we have fear and hate so we will be none productive with making headway on race issues. So its better to keep living in the fear and printing letters like the one you did so people can't move past what the terrorist did to us. You can't take awhole group of people and make them into the problem so we can be ok with the hate. It doesn't matter if its muslim or any culture we all need to be on our toes when it comes to people that want to do harm to human. So I speak up on this letter to me it poses harm to humans it doean't teach how we can bridge but to contiune to believe that this one group is to be feared and not a group to learn from and grow. Like I said muslims have familys, jobs, culture, religion and some of the same goals as we do in this country your letter from your friend says other wise.

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