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Jul 13, 2023 16:30:07   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
User ID wrote:
So obvious ! Wonder why the OP could possibly imagine it might go otherwise.

Rules aside, spot color is just a feeble noncreative cliche. Has its place in the advertising biz but is never gonna win any ribbons even if it were allowed to enter the competition.


You can be so unhelpful and useless, User. See my response to Larry about the rules. There's very NO definition of the classes for the contest. If there were, I would not have made my original post.

Stan

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Jul 13, 2023 16:47:26   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
They may interpret it differently, but in the regional competitions I've administered black and white will stretch to monochrome but not colors. Enter at your own risk of being dq'd.

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Jul 13, 2023 17:18:07   #
User ID
 
StanMac wrote:
You can be so unhelpful and useless, User. See my response to Larry about the rules. There's very NO definition of the classes for the contest. If there were, I would not have made my original post.

Stan

Rules schmules. You wanna know if your sure loser will even be permitted to enter. Shoot for the bulls eye, not for the very corner of the target.

You said I was "unhelpful" only cuz you didnt like my helpful remark. You wanna know if your three legged greyhound will be disqualified. Like it or not, the helpful answer is that it just doesnt matter, cuz someone(s) will enter a four legged dog.

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Jul 13, 2023 22:13:50   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
StanMac wrote:
I’m planning on entering a print in my county fair’s B&W Category. If I use selective color on an object in the photograph to draw attention to a particular object in the image, would that disqualify the whole image as a B&W photo? What is your opinion?

Stan


Of course.

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Jul 14, 2023 08:34:54   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
StanMac wrote:
I’m planning on entering a print in my county fair’s B&W Category. If I use selective color on an object in the photograph to draw attention to a particular object in the image, would that disqualify the whole image as a B&W photo? What is your opinion?

Stan

Yes, DQ

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Jul 14, 2023 08:41:26   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Linda From Away wrote:
Additionally, if you weren't able to draw attention to a particular object within the monochrome tonal range, it's because your composition and/or light is a problem. Rethink, reshoot.


Rethink, re-edit?

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Jul 14, 2023 08:56:24   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Thank you all for your opinions.

Stan

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Jul 14, 2023 09:15:17   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
StanMac wrote:
I’m planning on entering a print in my county fair’s B&W Category. If I use selective color on an object in the photograph to draw attention to a particular object in the image, would that disqualify the whole image as a B&W photo? What is your opinion?

Stan


I think so. It seems that it would better find into a digital manipulation category.

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Jul 14, 2023 09:45:57   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I would say yes, it would disqualify it, especially after other entrants complained. It seems that selective color has come and gone.

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Jul 14, 2023 11:12:14   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
StanMac wrote:
I’m planning on entering a print in my county fair’s B&W Category. If I use selective color on an object in the photograph to draw attention to a particular object in the image, would that disqualify the whole image as a B&W photo? What is your opinion?

Stan


How serious can you take a contest for B&W photography that allows color? Sort of like a man trying to compete in women's sports. If it isn't "black" or "white" it isn't eligible. Why would you even consider color in a B&W discussion?

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Jul 14, 2023 12:25:34   #
MJPerini
 
I certainly do not know what the judges of the contest will think, and they will have the last word.

In my opinion it would not qualify as a a B&W picture. My reason is this: what does a mostly B&W picture with an element of color DO? It immediately calls your attention to the color. It makes the B&W portion less important by design. Now there is nothing wrong with making selective color pictures if you wish to do so, I just think B&W is the wrong category.

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Jul 14, 2023 13:24:34   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
StanMac wrote:
I’m planning on entering a print in my county fair’s B&W Category. If I use selective color on an object in the photograph to draw attention to a particular object in the image, would that disqualify the whole image as a B&W photo? What is your opinion?

Stan


I would say yes, but I’m not the rules committee. I would ask them.

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Jul 14, 2023 13:28:29   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
StanMac wrote:
You can be so unhelpful and useless, User. See my response to Larry about the rules. There's very NO definition of the classes for the contest. If there were, I would not have made my original post.

Stan


Somebody is running the competition. That’s who to ask.

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Jul 14, 2023 13:32:11   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
StanMac wrote:
The contest rules do not qualify or define what B&W is in the context of the competition. It just uses the term B&W as one of the Classes. None of the classes are defined as to what they encompass. For instance Landscape is stated as just that - Landscape. The Amateur category has 18 different subject classes. The B&W class is open only to professionals and members of the local camera club who, I suppose, are considered accomplished photographers and would present unfair competition to the general public (amateurs) that are the entrants for all the other subject classes. I am a member of the local camera club, so I have to enter the Professional category.

Stan
The contest rules do not qualify or define what B&... (show quote)


Perhaps then the answer is that B&W is so obvious, more explanation is unnecessary, especially to Professional or members of a camera club?

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Jul 14, 2023 13:41:24   #
brentrh Loc: Deltona, FL
 
You are always bound by the rules of contest. Like them or not. Contests would be wonderful if open to all photographers. But bound by rules of contest if a contest wants to "make it fair" to amateur photographers then you have set rules that will be followed. If your work can not measure up to "Professional" learn from them. Truthfully there a amateur photographers that have photographs that are professional. Not a favor of everyone gets a participation award.

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