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Jun 26, 2023 14:24:00   #
Rotorhead Loc: Midwest-Fly-Over Country
 
Many years ago I chose Lightroom primarily to organize my photos. I have been lousy with that organizing idea. I have Lightroom 6. Old as dirt. Do I need to upgrade if my primary purpose is to organize my photos? And.....where do I go for help? Are there classes in E. Iowa or Southern CA. Recommended tutorials? Thanks a bunch.

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Jun 26, 2023 14:31:10   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
Anthony Morganti and Mark Koslowski both have excellent tutorials online.

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Jun 26, 2023 14:38:11   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
As far as I recall, the organization part of Lightroom has not had significant updates. There may be some minor things updated but my organization depends on keywords and collections, which I am using in the same way as I did a decade ago.

The ONLY problem with LR6 is that it is not updateable, and you will probably have trouble loading it into a new computer. But if it is working on your old computer it should do the job. And your organization will work on newer versions of LR if/when you update.

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Jun 26, 2023 14:44:39   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Need to upgrade? Not yet. Should you update, I would. Even if you use it only as a data base at first you will probably drift into using its processing features as you become more confident and competent with the program. There zillions of free tutorials on the internet, Adobe has a great beginners set.

You may be happier with Adobe Bridge. Basically a data base program and lacking the processing features of Lightroom Classic. Again all kinds of free tutorials.

I think Adobe still has a 30 day free trial. I'm sure someone else posting to your thread will have an answer to that

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Jun 26, 2023 16:33:17   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Rotorhead wrote:
Many years ago I chose Lightroom primarily to organize my photos. I have been lousy with that organizing idea. I have Lightroom 6. Old as dirt. Do I need to upgrade if my primary purpose is to organize my photos? And.....where do I go for help? Are there classes in E. Iowa or Southern CA. Recommended tutorials? Thanks a bunch.


Online (u-tube) training if free and rather helpful. I use LR6 today, but it only installs onto Windows machines, and then only if you have install files and your serial number in your Adobe.com profile.

If you go with an Adobe update, your only option is to start an ongoing monthly (or annual) subscription in the $10/mth range. All your existing LR6 work / cataloging will be ingested automatically into the new LR software when downloaded and installed.

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Jun 27, 2023 06:33:53   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
UTMike wrote:
Anthony Morganti and Mark Koslowski both have excellent tutorials online.


Agreed Mike, excellent advice.

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Jun 27, 2023 07:14:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
If what you mean is actually organizing, take a look at these links - free and paid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_organizer
http://www.toptenreviews.com/software/multimedia/best-photo-organizing-software/
Basic ideas -
http://photography.tutsplus.com/articles/using-a-controlled-vocabulary-to-organize-digital-photographs--cms-23344

Lots for free -
Best -
https://blogs.systweak.com/best-free-photo-organizer-software-for-windows-10-8-7/

https://www.digikam.org/
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-digital-photo-organizer.htm
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/10-free-photo-managing-software-you-should-at-least-know/
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/pictures-story/412-best-free-photo-management-software.html

Or not free -
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402024,00.asp
http://photo-organizing-software-review.toptenreviews.com/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-best-way-to-organize-a-lifetime-of-photos-1429637857

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Jun 27, 2023 08:18:38   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Rotorhead wrote:
Many years ago I chose Lightroom primarily to organize my photos. I have been lousy with that organizing idea. I have Lightroom 6. Old as dirt. Do I need to upgrade if my primary purpose is to organize my photos? And.....where do I go for help? Are there classes in E. Iowa or Southern CA. Recommended tutorials? Thanks a bunch.


I have to agree with DirtFarmer. The cataloging function of LrC has not changed much over the years. Unless you want to reorganize all of your images consider setting up a bunch of Collections or maybe Smart Collections to use. As you are still using Lightroom 6 you must be using older hardware so you will not be able to take advantage of any of the new editing tools that are becoming available.

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Jun 27, 2023 08:32:09   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
Rotorhead wrote:
Many years ago I chose Lightroom primarily to organize my photos. I have been lousy with that organizing idea. I have Lightroom 6. Old as dirt. Do I need to upgrade if my primary purpose is to organize my photos? And.....where do I go for help? Are there classes in E. Iowa or Southern CA. Recommended tutorials? Thanks a bunch.

Kelby has the best organizational plan for Lr. Watch his YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLX27yyDiIs

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Jun 27, 2023 08:58:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Rotorhead wrote:
Many years ago I chose Lightroom primarily to organize my photos. I have been lousy with that organizing idea. I have Lightroom 6. Old as dirt. Do I need to upgrade if my primary purpose is to organize my photos? And.....where do I go for help? Are there classes in E. Iowa or Southern CA. Recommended tutorials? Thanks a bunch.


Lightroom 6 is a dead horse. Adobe no longer supports it. The download of the software will be gone by the end of the year. The sync feature will be gone with it. Fuggeddaboudit. It will eventually die completely when your current computer dies or you upgrade the OS.

There are now TWO Lightrooms, related, but very different animals.

Lightroom 6 morphed into Lightroom CLASSIC. Classic (LrC) is the desktop version true to the original form of the application. Lightroom (Lr) is the former Lightroom Mobile, but on steroids. It works through the Adobe Cloud, so you can connect to all your devices and work on your images from any of them. However, it lacks many of the features of traditional Lightroom 6 (now Classic), and has many different features.

BOTH Lightroom ("cloudy") and Lightroom Classic are subscription-only, available bundled with Photoshop and Bridge, plus a little Adobe Cloud Storage and some other goodies, for $9.99 a month. You can pay more and get more Adobe Cloud storage in the bundle, if you want that, but most don't.

TONS of training is available for Adobe products — probably more than for any other brand of software. YouTube is full of videos on it. (Most of it is free to watch, if you don't mind the ads…) Many community colleges offer graphic arts and photography classes on Adobe software. Find a community college in your area, go to their website, and search their catalog. Some offerings may be listed as computer classes, and some as art...

If you don't want to subscribe, and you happen to be a Mac user, a somewhat suitable substitute is a combination of Apple Photos with Gentlemen Coders' Raw Power and Serif's Affinity Photo. It is a one time expense of under $125. Training is found online and sometimes at larger Apple Stores.

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Jun 27, 2023 09:11:07   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
jackpinoh wrote:
Kelby has the best organizational plan for Lr. Watch his YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLX27yyDiIs


I'ma a paid member of KelbyOne - a great resource for learning and a great, online community that is professionally moderated.

I've been using his SLIM method for a couple years now. So simple, yet it works so well.

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Jun 27, 2023 11:58:35   #
zarathu Loc: Bar Harbor, MDI, Maine
 
I have tried organization apps. But I have found that just putting my photographs in folders of like items, and then maintaining a list of folders to search from works as well as anything else. I used a program called Neofinder, but it was not any better than putting folders in myself, and much much faster. I can quickly look at the contents of any folder and manipulate the files in them with FastRawViewer.

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Jun 27, 2023 12:25:11   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
As far as I recall, the organization part of Lightroom has not had significant updates. There may be some minor things updated but my organization depends on keywords and collections, which I am using in the same way as I did a decade ago.

The ONLY problem with LR6 is that it is not updateable, and you will probably have trouble loading it into a new computer. But if it is working on your old computer it should do the job. And your organization will work on newer versions of LR if/when you update.
As far as I recall, the organization part of Light... (show quote)


Dirt Farmer has just exposed the essential truth. Lightroom is fundamentally the missing database front end for Photoshop for organizing and managing digital data. It is ls also known as the Library module. The full program has since morphed to free standing piece of the Adobe system. My experience begins with LR 3.0 and the Library Module as since changed very little. Yes, it has been polished and augmented by the addition of a number of features but nothing has been removed so what you did in previous versions will have the identical function, look and feel today.

This observation applies to LR6 which has been left behind by the inevitable rapid advance in technology. Left to rust if you will. Adobe gently withdrew their support more slowly than the license agreement could have demanded. Sort of like pulling off the bandage off slowly. If someone has a loadable copy of LR6 and wants to run it on a computer and OS that is outdated enough to use your copy the go ahead. What it sounds like is Adobe has stopped providing another copy to someone that has a valid LR6 license recently. It is what it is.

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Jun 27, 2023 12:44:38   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Rotorhead wrote:
Many years ago I chose Lightroom primarily to organize my photos. I have been lousy with that organizing idea. I have Lightroom 6. Old as dirt. Do I need to upgrade if my primary purpose is to organize my photos? And.....where do I go for help? Are there classes in E. Iowa or Southern CA. Recommended tutorials? Thanks a bunch.


I tried Lr 3.2 or something like that. Did not like it. So I stayed with only using Ps CS6. Where are you at in So CA. I know there are in person classes in Covina and San Dimas, and I am sure many more places.

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Jun 27, 2023 13:55:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Jack 13088 wrote:
Dirt Farmer has just exposed the essential truth. Lightroom is fundamentally the missing database front end for Photoshop for organizing and managing digital data. It is ls also known as the Library module. The full program has since morphed to free standing piece of the Adobe system. My experience begins with LR 3.0 and the Library Module as since changed very little. Yes, it has been polished and augmented by the addition of a number of features but nothing has been removed so what you did in previous versions will have the identical function, look and feel today.

This observation applies to LR6 which has been left behind by the inevitable rapid advance in technology. Left to rust if you will. Adobe gently withdrew their support more slowly than the license agreement could have demanded. Sort of like pulling off the bandage off slowly. If someone has a loadable copy of LR6 and wants to run it on a computer and OS that is outdated enough to use your copy the go ahead. What it sounds like is Adobe has stopped providing another copy to someone that has a valid LR6 license recently. It is what it is.
Dirt Farmer has just exposed the essential truth. ... (show quote)


You got that right.

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