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Jun 17, 2023 11:52:26   #
BebuLamar
 
larryepage wrote:
There's been a lot of expressed worry about the size and weight of a D800e. It's given me several really good chuckles. I've been working quite closely with young people (students and teachers) for the past 7 years. I've learned a lot about both groups during that time. One big thing is that no one needs to worry about the size, weight, or bulk of a camera used by a young woman. They are a lot tougher (and many times stronger) than young men the same age. They also whine and complain a lot less.
There's been a lot of expressed worry about the si... (show quote)


I agree! She isn't some grumpy old man.

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Jun 17, 2023 11:53:42   #
BebuLamar
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yup, I've never considered the weight in purchasing a camera (or lens), only what it can do.
I accept the weight for what it is.


I do consider weight in purchasing camera. I prefer heavy but small cameras. I like high density material. I bought my camera and I felt cheated because it's too light for the money I paid.

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Jun 17, 2023 11:54:24   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
rfreudenheim wrote:
The D800E does have a built-in flash and in a pinch, it works quite well.


Yes it does have a small flash, but output is minimal.

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Jun 17, 2023 11:57:03   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Vince68 wrote:
Not sure where you got your info from, but the Nikon D800E does in fact have a built in flash. It is the exact same camera as the Nikon D800, but without the Anti-Aliasing filter. It will not "which may hinder her ability to get those dark, close-up news shots" in any way.

Check out this comparison by Ken Rockwell on the D800/D800E to see the differences between the two cameras.

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d800/vs-d800e.htm


Yes it has a flash, but output is very minimal.

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Jun 17, 2023 11:59:11   #
BebuLamar
 
MT Shooter wrote:
It absolutely does NOT have a built in flash. No Nikon pro level camera has built-in flash, only their beginner and consumer level cameras have them.


With all due respect as I know you know a lot about cameras especially Nikon but the D800 and D800E do have the built in flash. The D850 doesn't.
Check the manual page 181.
Also the specs page from Nikon USA
https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product-archive/dslr-cameras/d800.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs

Scroll down to the Flash section.

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Jun 17, 2023 13:15:17   #
JFP
 
A lot of folks seem to forget the idea of getting the picture right to begin with as we did in film photography. If you do it right the first time you don't have to worry about post processing.

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Jun 17, 2023 13:18:55   #
Mustang1
 
JonathanChemE wrote:
My niece may have an opportunity to acquire a used D800E from her late great uncle’s estate at a bargain price with some good lenses. She is a beginner but shoots mainly for a local newspaper. She does no post processing now but is planning to take a course. Would this be good for her or would it potentially just frustrate her? This question is mainly for Nikon users and I don’t know much about this camera other than what I read at the BH site. Right now she uses a CanonT100.


Advise her to take the Nikon, do research and get hands-on experience. She'll do just fine.

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Jun 17, 2023 13:29:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JFP wrote:
A lot of folks seem to forget the idea of getting the picture right to begin with as we did in film photography. If you do it right the first time you don't have to worry about post processing.

"Right" is relative, I still tweak to my liking.
With film, I didn't have a choice. (99.9% slides)
Now I have a choice.
And I use it!

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Jun 17, 2023 13:47:24   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Until the D850 came out, the D800E was the finest DSLR on the market! Full professional features without the bulk or weight problems. Some of the sharpest images ever produced were with that body, which was identical to the D800 but lacked the anti-aliasing filter of all other DSLRs at the time. That and the amazing 36mp sensor made for a wonderful combination.
I kept and used mine, along with my D850, until I finally moved up to the Z9, and even then it was hard to let the D800E go. But with over 400,000 clicks on mine, it was time.
Tell her to grab it, she will likely never outgrow it!
Until the D850 came out, the D800E was the finest ... (show quote)


Is it repairable any more?

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Jun 17, 2023 13:47:47   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
zug55 wrote:
Here is the dilemma. This certainly is a fine camera that can get the job done. However, this does not address the ethical dilemmas this poses.

We should get away from the notion that DSLRs are good starter cameras for young people. The DSLR format is dead. We are not doing young people a service getting them into cameras that have nothing to do what photography is now and will be in the future.


That's ridiculous!!!

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Jun 17, 2023 13:48:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Retired CPO wrote:
That's ridiculous!!!


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Jun 17, 2023 13:51:00   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Longshadow wrote:

Unfortunately it is to some people.........


Yeah. But so are their brains!!

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Jun 17, 2023 13:55:19   #
stan0301 Loc: Colorado
 
JonathanChemE wrote:
My niece may have an opportunity to acquire a used D800E from her late great uncle’s estate at a bargain price with some good lenses. She is a beginner but shoots mainly for a local newspaper. She does no post processing now but is planning to take a course. Would this be good for her or would it potentially just frustrate her? This question is mainly for Nikon users and I don’t know much about this camera other than what I read at the BH site. Right now she uses a CanonT100.



Great camera - perfectly able to think for itself - but you could certainly turn the "auto" off - should be very hard to miss a shot

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Jun 17, 2023 13:57:26   #
Sltolivar
 
The 800 E definitely has a flash....

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Jun 17, 2023 13:57:47   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Yeah. But so are their brains!!


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