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Jun 11, 2023 08:06:34   #
PoppieJ Loc: North Georgia
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeJ1acE8mI

This guy is sharing his reasons for the camera he uses everyday but he is also sharing something that we often forget about why we are taking/making pictures.

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Jun 11, 2023 08:26:12   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
Interesting. I think his theme of "being in the moment" and using an every day camera to capture emotion-provoking images is a valid point of view. He even admits to giving up his Manual mode and instead "trusting the camera" in Aperture mode. I think that's what a lot of enthusiasts do, that is, using a camera as a secondary activity to enjoying a social event, being in a beautiful location, etc. It all goes back to the reason for taking the photograph. Is it to evoke a memory of something the photographer was doing or a place (s)he was visiting or to create a professional work of art for some other purpose or for someone other than the photographer? If he was on commission, would he use an everyday camera?

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Jun 11, 2023 08:31:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
No disagreement from me. I was relieved to see what camera he bought. I already have a small Fuji, so I don't feel pressured to buy another camera. I agree with one of his early statements. He bought a new camera to spark his photography.

I've made a mental list of shots I want to get when my Z8 arrives. Sure, I could use another camera to take those pictures, but accumulating a mental list will give me something to do when the camera arrives. I still take pictures almost every day, but this is my "special" list.

This following video is good - using manual focus. I suspect the camera's autofocus will be sharper. Speed isn't always a priority.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R5OfU_G8ts

And - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQBGonFO9ZY

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Jun 11, 2023 08:45:10   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
PoppieJ wrote:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeJ1acE8mI

This guy is sharing his reasons for the camera he uses everyday but he is also sharing something that we often forget about why we are taking/making pictures.


Interesting. I have a Fujifilm X100T, the model before his. It is capable of producing excellent images. But most of the time I am not shooting "in the moment" images. And am more used to my DSLR Pentax cameras. When ever I use the Fuji it is a learning curve.

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Jun 11, 2023 08:47:10   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
PoppieJ wrote:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeJ1acE8mI

This guy is sharing his reasons for the camera he uses everyday but he is also sharing something that we often forget about why we are taking/making pictures.


A very sobering view of photography.
JimmyT Sends

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Jun 11, 2023 08:58:15   #
achesley Loc: SW Louisiana
 
wow! Loved the presentation! My two main cameras still used 80% are my 2 Canon G16's. Got into these kind of cameras when I was traveling the USA on motorcycles for over 700K miles. Needed something I could just reach in the tank bag with my left hand only. Get the camera out, turn it on, point it in the direction I found interesting , snap a couple pictures in the point and shoot mode with my eyes paying attention to the road. Turn it off, put it back in the tank bag. But I always shot RAW in the P mode. Still do lots of that in my moving vehicles. My T3i sits not used for the last couple years and I have an M50 I keep in my vehicle now also. Might have to try the JPeg mode like he's doing.

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Jun 12, 2023 09:49:30   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
achesley wrote:
wow! Loved the presentation! My two main cameras still used 80% are my 2 Canon G16's. Got into these kind of cameras when I was traveling the USA on motorcycles for over 700K miles. Needed something I could just reach in the tank bag with my left hand only. Get the camera out, turn it on, point it in the direction I found interesting , snap a couple pictures in the point and shoot mode with my eyes paying attention to the road. Turn it off, put it back in the tank bag. But I always shot RAW in the P mode. Still do lots of that in my moving vehicles. My T3i sits not used for the last couple years and I have an M50 I keep in my vehicle now also. Might have to try the JPeg mode like he's doing.
wow! Loved the presentation! My two main cameras ... (show quote)


Reminds me of my method of shooting in motion back in the day while riding the Blue Ridge. Except I used a Minolta 16PS. It was a matter of chance getting a nicely framed shot since there was no LCD to see what the camera was seeing.

Stan

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Jun 12, 2023 10:55:04   #
BrianFlaherty Loc: Wilseyville, CA
 
Why? My first "real" camera was a YashicaMat (because my brother-in-law had a "real" Rollei TLR; and, I could not afford one like his!); and, I wanted a "dependable camera to take photos of our new kid, arriving in a few months. Several years later (1968), wife was "outta the picture;" but, I was hooked on "real" cameras. A friend was a "pro;" and, he recommended his camera: a Nikon FTN with an 85 mm, 1.4 (because I could only afford one lens!) I still have that 85 (for portrait and "forensic" detailing); but, I have up-graded over the years. Currently, I have an F-100; an F-3 (for film); and, digitals D-90; D7000; and, D7100. "GAS" plays no part in MY life! Thank you Nikon for maintaining the Nikon "feel" throughout your parade. . .I have only had to learn what the "new" buttons will "do." But, the feel is the same over the years! I am too lazy to change lenses! Hence, I carry cameras fitted with ONE lens each; and, I use a 28-300; an 18-37; and, the trusty OLD 85. I also have a "highly specialized" Nikkor 500 mm, f8 which will identify the face of a rock-climber a 1/4 mile away.

Ya know, I have found that carrying TWO cameras will "open up doors" to some rather interesting places (because people think you're a "pro" on a "shooting assignment). And, I've been invited into the attic of a 17th Century thatched roof pub in Oxfordshire to "meet their ghost;" the basement and rooftop of Topkapi Palace in Istanbul to view the "plunder of a thousand years of Turkish raiders;" the basement of Stirling Castle in Scotland; the dungeons of Warwick Castle in England; the "forbidden rooms" of the Alhambra in Granada (Spain). . .And, innumerable "private" places in the United States (though Americans are not that impressed by traveling photographers! <smile>)

But, idea has always been "to remember" (and, occasionally, to share) with a modicum of accuracy! <smile>. It has been a lot of fun. . .And, now (in my Ninth Decade), I can use all the help I can get. . .And, especially when I am alone with my thoughts. . .

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Jun 12, 2023 11:10:30   #
mackolb
 
Jerry, the Z8 is heavier and bulkier than I expected. I did an event shoot last night and then found that the images were so large, that I had to carefully manage my storage to accommodate them, so no more "spray and pray," but deliberate frame, focus and capture.
I look forward to reading your thoughts when it arrives.

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Jun 12, 2023 19:03:43   #
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mackolb wrote:
Jerry, the Z8 is heavier and bulkier than I expected. I did an event shoot last night and then found that the images were so large, that I had to carefully manage my storage to accommodate them, so no more "spray and pray," but deliberate frame, focus and capture.
I look forward to reading your thoughts when it arrives.

What sort of card is cramping your style that way ?

Just got some new cards that are really only just adequate. The Z7 is pretty well served shooting fast bursts of raw+jpg to a 320GB Express type B, but thaz really "just adequate".

I hate to see any Spray & Pray devotee hobbled (NOT sarcasm). You know its a great technique cuz the Great Unwashed are always poking fun at it. My very best "Spray Gun" does raw+jpg at 75fps and uses a 512GB Express type B simply cuz it cant handle a bigger card :-(

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Jun 12, 2023 19:07:17   #
mackolb
 
It's not the card but my Mac's storage. The raw files are 52mb each! On the other hand, they look so good, that I'm going to try shooting jpg and see how they meet my expectations for quality.

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Jun 12, 2023 19:13:36   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
fourlocks wrote:
Interesting. I think his theme of "being in the moment" and using an every day camera to capture emotion-provoking images is a valid point of view. He even admits to giving up his Manual mode and instead "trusting the camera" in Aperture mode. I think that's what a lot of enthusiasts do, that is, using a camera as a secondary activity to enjoying a social event, being in a beautiful location, etc. It all goes back to the reason for taking the photograph. Is it to evoke a memory of something the photographer was doing or a place (s)he was visiting or to create a professional work of art for some other purpose or for someone other than the photographer? If he was on commission, would he use an everyday camera?
Interesting. I think his theme of "being in ... (show quote)

When ‘capturing the moment’, it is best to use a camera that you can use instinctively, without having to study it or figure out something new. When in Grad School {over 50 years ago!}, I used a simple rangefinder camera, and took one shot at a time. Bursts have never been my style.

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Jun 12, 2023 19:32:18   #
mackolb
 
When I was shooting film and no longer had my own darkroom, I calculated the cost at about 65¢ per frame, when printed to my preferred size of 5x7." And my photographic business covered that. I was careful to make each frame worth the cost.
Now, despite the fact that the Z8 has a very high still frame rate capture capability, after realizing the cost vs benefit, I'm back to single-frame shooting discipline, as if my digital film was a limited supply of ammunition in combat.
If I get back to shooting theatre and performing arts (my bread and butter for many years), the frame rate will be helpful.

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Jun 12, 2023 19:36:23   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
mackolb wrote:
Jerry, the Z8 is heavier and bulkier than I expected. I did an event shoot last night and then found that the images were so large, that I had to carefully manage my storage to accommodate them, so no more "spray and pray," but deliberate frame, focus and capture.
I look forward to reading your thoughts when it arrives.


I save uncompressed raw files on my D850. They are between 90 and 92 MB each. 3200 will fit on a 375 GB CFE card. You are apparently saving as lossless compressed, meaning that you should get somewhere between 5,000 and 6,000 on a similarly sized card.

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Jun 12, 2023 19:52:15   #
mackolb
 
Thanks. But, what do you do with all those images after you've captured them?
Where do they go to live out their artistic lives?

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