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Jun 9, 2023 16:05:30   #
black mamba
 
As like many folks who are into WW II military aircraft, my favorite is the P-51 Mustang.

The first photos are of the P-51 C model. This plane belongs to the Collins group in Florida and has been spectacularly restored. The C model was actually slightly faster than the D model that followed. The D model was primarily introduced for one reason....the outward visibility was better because of the " bubble " canopy it had. In air combat, the sooner and better you could spot an opponent, the better your chances of making back home.

The P-51 D Mustang shown belongs to a guy in Jacksonville who has given me rides in that bad boy. It is, undoubtedly, the most visceral experience I've ever had in an airplane.


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Jun 9, 2023 16:12:29   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
Excellent.

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Jun 9, 2023 16:17:00   #
black mamba
 
kpmac wrote:
Excellent.


Thanks. I appreciate it.

Tom

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Jun 9, 2023 16:20:30   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
black mamba wrote:
As like many folks who are into WW II military aircraft, my favorite is the P-51 Mustang.

The first photos are of the P-51 C model. This plane belongs to the Collins group in Florida and has been spectacularly restored. The C model was actually slightly faster than the D model that followed. The D model was primarily introduced for one reason....the outward visibility was better because of the " bubble " canopy it had. In air combat, the sooner and better you could spot an opponent, the better your chances of making back home.

The P-51 D Mustang shown belongs to a guy in Jacksonville who has given me rides in that bad boy. It is, undoubtedly, the most visceral experience I've ever had in an airplane.
As like many folks who are into WW II military air... (show quote)


Possibly you could answer the question whether or not a Mustang can be snap-rolled. It was a prohibited maneuver in the USAF aircraft I have flown but a buddy took me up in his AT-6 once and showed me how to do it. The people at Disney would kill to offer a ride comparable. 2nd best experience I ever had in fixed wings.

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Jun 9, 2023 16:29:13   #
black mamba
 
davidrb wrote:
Possibly you could answer the question whether or not a Mustang can be snap-rolled. It was a prohibited maneuver in the USAF aircraft I have flown but a buddy took me up in his AT-6 once and showed me how to do it. The people at Disney would kill to offer a ride comparable. 2nd best experience I ever had in fixed wings.


I've been in it when he rolled it fairly quickly, but not what would be termed as a snap-roll.

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Jun 9, 2023 16:32:38   #
hoosier500
 
Great pics! Were there more D's manufactured than C's? I was under the impression that all Mustangs had the bubble canopy. I've now been educated.

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Jun 9, 2023 16:50:12   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
black mamba wrote:
I've been in it when he rolled it fairly quickly, but not what would be termed as a snap-roll.


You would know if you had been through a snap-roll. It is beyond quick, and very violent. The maneuver tore entire tail-sections off of aircraft. Thus it was a prohibited maneuver IF enough experience had been completed with that airframe. Many early aviation pioneers died due to lack of information concerning their actions. When tail sections started tearing off of airborne A/C serious thinking was needed to prevent it. When science figured out what caused it the maneuver was no longer allowed. The A/C in which I experienced it was an AT-6 Texan, the former trainer. It is a strongly built airframe and could absorb the tremendous amounts of adverse torque involved. One hell of an amusement park ride.

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Jun 9, 2023 16:57:13   #
black mamba
 
hoosier500 wrote:
Great pics! Were there more D's manufactured than C's? I was under the impression that all Mustangs had the bubble canopy. I've now been educated.


Thanks.

There were a little less than 2,000 C models produced. There were more than 8,000 D models produced. In the beginning, there was even an A and B model. They were very short lived.

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Jun 9, 2023 17:10:25   #
black mamba
 
davidrb wrote:
You would know if you had been through a snap-roll. It is beyond quick, and very violent. The maneuver tore entire tail-sections off of aircraft. Thus it was a prohibited maneuver IF enough experience had been completed with that airframe. Many early aviation pioneers died due to lack of information concerning their actions. When tail sections started tearing off of airborne A/C serious thinking was needed to prevent it. When science figured out what caused it the maneuver was no longer allowed. The A/C in which I experienced it was an AT-6 Texan, the former trainer. It is a strongly built airframe and could absorb the tremendous amounts of adverse torque involved. One hell of an amusement park ride.
You would know if you had been through a snap-roll... (show quote)


I'm very aware of what a snap-roll is. I'm a pilot myself. I just recently sold the last plane I have owned. A very docile Piper J-3 Cub which some buddies and I restored to like-new condition.

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Jun 9, 2023 17:15:22   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
black mamba wrote:
As like many folks who are into WW II military aircraft, my favorite is the P-51 Mustang.

The first photos are of the P-51 C model. This plane belongs to the Collins group in Florida and has been spectacularly restored. The C model was actually slightly faster than the D model that followed. The D model was primarily introduced for one reason....the outward visibility was better because of the " bubble " canopy it had. In air combat, the sooner and better you could spot an opponent, the better your chances of making back home.

The P-51 D Mustang shown belongs to a guy in Jacksonville who has given me rides in that bad boy. It is, undoubtedly, the most visceral experience I've ever had in an airplane.
As like many folks who are into WW II military air... (show quote)


Old beauties, but beautifully shot 💓🤍💙🤍💓

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Jun 9, 2023 17:24:39   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
Nice!! I really like #5!!!

Dodie

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Jun 9, 2023 17:29:45   #
black mamba
 
joecichjr wrote:
Old beauties, but beautifully shot 💓🤍💙🤍💓


Thanks. I appreciate the comment.

Tom

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Jun 9, 2023 17:33:41   #
black mamba
 
luvmypets wrote:
Nice!! I really like #5!!!

Dodie


I'm glad to hear that, Dodie. I had been wanting to make a shot like that for soooo long. I finally got my chance.

Tom

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Jun 9, 2023 18:32:18   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
black mamba wrote:
I'm very aware of what a snap-roll is. I'm a pilot myself. I just recently sold the last plane I have owned. A very docile Piper J-3 Cub which some buddies and I restored to like-new condition.


I envy you. A J-3 is reputedly one of the last truly fun planes to fly, and I have never had that privilege. Were you IFR equiped?

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Jun 9, 2023 20:10:08   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
black mamba wrote:
As like many folks who are into WW II military aircraft, my favorite is the P-51 Mustang.

The first photos are of the P-51 C model. This plane belongs to the Collins group in Florida and has been spectacularly restored. The C model was actually slightly faster than the D model that followed. The D model was primarily introduced for one reason....the outward visibility was better because of the " bubble " canopy it had. In air combat, the sooner and better you could spot an opponent, the better your chances of making back home.

The P-51 D Mustang shown belongs to a guy in Jacksonville who has given me rides in that bad boy. It is, undoubtedly, the most visceral experience I've ever had in an airplane.
As like many folks who are into WW II military air... (show quote)


Very good set!

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