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Jun 5, 2023 14:55:23   #
cascom Loc: Redmond
 
1/1000 F2.8 18000 ISO 70-200mm shot in raw edited with ON1



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Jun 5, 2023 15:05:11   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Thomas902 wrote:
Welcome to the UHH Outline...
Capturing Sports?

It's all about the Glass my friend, the camera really isn't nearly as important as Fast Glass especially primes.
Also wise to avoid "Pumpers" since they can (and do) shift the CG and you'll end up fighting your monopod by the end of your third soccer match of the day. IF (Internal Focus) Primes once balanced float effortlessly on your monopod.

Again, it's not so much the camera in shooting commercial sports... It's all about having a razor sharp clearly rendered Player's Face, a (strategically positioned) Ball in the image and above all else a "clean" uncluttered background detracting from the player(s).

Unfortunately you can't purchase "Excellence" in sport photography, it's pretty much not a consumer commodity...
Excellence in this genre results from endless persistence and carefully analyzing the work of outstanding commercial shooters in your market. Kind sir they are actually your competition...

Best Advice? Maybe Stay Off the Main Forum and hang out on the Sports Photography Forum
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-103-1.html
"This section is dedicated to Sports Photography, either to show off your work or to get help to make your product look better! Any help, productive criticism and compliments are welcome and encouraged!"

Once again... Shooting Commercial Sports? It's all about Fast Primes
Wishing you all the best on your photographic journey Outline
Welcome to the UHH Outline... br Capturing Sports?... (show quote)


Just curious, your last shot says AF 300mm "prime". I thought a 300mm is a prime without adding the extra
Like saying 24-70mm then adding "zoom".

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Jun 5, 2023 16:40:03   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
cascom wrote:
1/1000 F2.8 18000 ISO 70-200mm shot in raw edited with ON1


Gorgeous action capture ♦️🎖️♦️🎖️♦️

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Jun 5, 2023 16:55:06   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Thomas902 wrote:
Welcome to the UHH Outline...
Capturing Sports?

It's all about the Glass my friend, the camera really isn't nearly as important as Fast Glass especially primes.
Also wise to avoid "Pumpers" since they can (and do) shift the CG and you'll end up fighting your monopod by the end of your third soccer match of the day. IF (Internal Focus) Primes once balanced float effortlessly on your monopod.

Again, it's not so much the camera in shooting commercial sports... It's all about having a razor sharp clearly rendered Player's Face, a (strategically positioned) Ball in the image and above all else a "clean" uncluttered background detracting from the player(s).

Unfortunately you can't purchase "Excellence" in sport photography, it's pretty much not a consumer commodity...
Excellence in this genre results from endless persistence and carefully analyzing the work of outstanding commercial shooters in your market. Kind sir they are actually your competition...

Best Advice? Maybe Stay Off the Main Forum and hang out on the Sports Photography Forum
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-103-1.html
"This section is dedicated to Sports Photography, either to show off your work or to get help to make your product look better! Any help, productive criticism and compliments are welcome and encouraged!"

Once again... Shooting Commercial Sports? It's all about Fast Primes
Wishing you all the best on your photographic journey Outline
Welcome to the UHH Outline... br Capturing Sports?... (show quote)


Such a cool capture 🧡💚🧡💚🧡

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Jun 5, 2023 19:33:36   #
cascom Loc: Redmond
 
Just act normal. I am not a lawyer. I was doing an assignment in Richmond, Va for the opening of school. I shot from my car window and one child told an adult and the police tried to find out who I was. When they learned, it was not a problem. On the other hand, we had a photographer in Washington shooting from the bushes. Not recommended. I just did a canoe race with handicapped youth and was asked to get their permission before I put any on the web. I shot a lot of wide art in Virginia. (Photos with just captions to fill spaces.)

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Jun 5, 2023 19:53:50   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Just curious, your last shot says AF 300mm "prime". I thought a 300mm is a prime without adding the extra
Like saying 24-70mm then adding "zoom".


300 could be a zoom set at 300 or a 300 prime, so the extra word helps

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Jun 6, 2023 20:22:26   #
TheOutline Loc: Charlotte, NC
 
What Sony A7 Riii. I found one used for these than $50 more than A7iii?

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Jun 7, 2023 17:19:32   #
TheOutline Loc: Charlotte, NC
 
I mean raising the iso so that I can shoot faster shutter speeds with acceptable grain

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Jun 7, 2023 21:10:02   #
Chicago312 Loc: Western suburb, Chicago
 
[quote=TheOutline]I want to capture sports from youth soccer and baseball to professional pickleball pros

Currently, I use an Olympus em1 mark ii, which is like cutting steak with butter knife. Not very good

I have 3 choices. I can upgrade to Olympus om1, but the Olympus zooms opposite of the Nikon and Sony. For that reason? I won’t consider Canon.

I can go with Sony, but have no glass at all. I would prob get used Sony a7iii

I can go Nikon with Z6ii. I have Nikon glass, albeit F mount.


Ideally, these kids sports need iso 1600. To stop pro action, prefer iso 3200 or 6400 in low light to stop action

I recently captured professional pickleball at iso 640 which was too slow. The ball looks very blurry as the twilight hour approached


So, my dream camera is one with good image quality at iso6400, near instantaneous auto focus, zooming same direction as Nikon, with a zoom out to 200mm at full length (full frame equivalent of 200 is 100mm for Olympus)


I have read extensively about z6ii versus Sony a7iii

Anyone have experience with these systems shooting action?[/quote


I shoot HS sports with a Nikon Z6. I use my F-Mount 70-200mm f2.8 and 300mm f2.8 and occ the TC 1.4
Faster lenses are a necessity in low light situations if you want to maintain a higher shutter speed and lower ISO.
I can shoot up to ISO 12,800 comfortably, but I also shoot tight, and minimize cropping at the higher ISO’s.
My shutter speeds are typically 1/1000 to 1/2000. Occasionally I will drop to 1/800 or 1/640.
1/500 is acceptable for grade school kids sports.

High quality, fast lenses help with autofocus and SS
Newer cameras have better ISO ranges/capabilities.

Sony supposedly has better autofocus capabilities; I don’t know and don’t care. I dislike the Sony menu and set up. I shoot 100% manual and very much like Nikon’s set up. I can adjust everything with one hand without taking my eyes off the viewfinder. I would like to upgrade to the Z6ii.

I would not worry too much about autofocus. Yes, I wish the Z6 had better autofocus capabilities, but I have missed “the shot” hundreds of times - mostly because spectators, coaches, players walk/run in front of your shot - or you’re looking one direction and the action suddenly shifts the opposite direction, etc. If you shoot enough, you’ll walk away with a number of decent shots and hopefully a few great ones.

Good luck with your decision.

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Jun 7, 2023 23:43:17   #
bebop22 Loc: New York City
 
Try the Sony RX10 MK4.

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Jun 9, 2023 16:41:21   #
TheOutline Loc: Charlotte, NC
 
I know What I meant to infer is that I am concerned about pushing iso, fearing extra grain. If I don’t push the iso, the shutter speed will be too slow to stop action

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Jun 9, 2023 16:54:18   #
fosis Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Now that Topaz delivers DeNoise functions through its app, and also through PhotoAI, I really don't worry about grain.
But I do worry about good sharp focus, because that is critical to the quality of the image. Auto focus is key to selecting the right camera for sports, and some sports (low light or highly active play) demand the more expensive cameras. May I suggest that Auto Focus is the difference between a steak knife and a butter knife here.
Good luck with your search.

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Jun 9, 2023 17:54:06   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I found shooting high school soccer, even with a one point focus other kids got in front on my nephew and locked on them.
Didn't help my nephew was a goalie and area in front of him conjested

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Jun 9, 2023 19:56:19   #
bkwaters
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
I found shooting high school soccer, even with a one point focus other kids got in front on my nephew and locked on them.
Didn't help my nephew was a goalie and area in front of him conjested


When I focused on my grandson playing soccer goalie my Canon R50 maintained focus on him while the other players cut in front and behind. Much “stickier “ focus than cameras used previously.

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Jun 10, 2023 09:20:33   #
TheOutline Loc: Charlotte, NC
 
thanks!

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