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May 24, 2023 11:10:24   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
User ID wrote:
Since you are broke you should stick with an SLR cuz those are cheaper. The silver lining is that those cheaper cameras are much more resistant to dust and boogers reaching the sensor.

Being fabulously wealthy, I simply use a rocket blower to clean the sensors on all my exorbitantly expensive nonSLRs. If they ever get TOO dirty I will just throw them away.


Not broke.
Could easily buy any Nikon product cash, literally and not touch the investments or the bank.
I don't need to get a collection of the latest.
But there are many here who are not broke but perhaps 4,000 for a camera and who knows what lens to just sit around.
I try to see this from their view when providing advice as perhaps a second camera is not an option for who knows what ever reason.

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May 24, 2023 11:32:36   #
gwilliams6
 
burkphoto wrote:
Here are the lessons I learned a LONG time ago, way before I bought a mirrorless camera:

Lesson 1: Change lenses in still air. A car with the AC off and windows up is a good place. If you must change lenses outdoors, do it with your back to the wind, and find something to block the wind whenever possible. Don't change lenses on a beach or at a construction site where earth movers are working.

Lesson 2: When changing lenses, hold the camera with the lens mount facing DOWN.

Lesson 3: If you remove a lens from a camera, cap the body with a CLEAN body cap, immediately.

Lesson 4: Keep the rears of your lenses clean, including rear element and the entire mount. Use rear lens caps when lens is not in use. Vacuum out your camera bag or case every now and then, especially after working in a dirty/dusty/gritty environment.

Lesson 5: Be sure the camera's sensor cleaning system is enabled and runs every time you switch the camera on or off.

Lesson 6: NEVER change lenses without first turning off the camera's power switch. Sensors retain a static charge when the camera is on, and it WILL suck up dust from the air. (Power off avoids sending power surges and static through the sensitive electronics of body, lens, and memory card...)

Lesson 7: Carry a Giottos AA1910 Medium Rocket-Air Blaster (blower bulb) with you to dislodge surface dust.

Lesson 8: Buy a kit for sensor cleaning that includes Photosol Eclipse fluid and Sensor Swabs. Get the one for your size of sensor. Watch the video online that explains how to wet-clean your sensor safely.

Cleanliness discipline is just part of photography. DUST is one of the biggest enemies in film photography, and it is still one of the biggest enemies in digital photography.
Here are the lessons I learned a LONG time ago, wa... (show quote)


Thanks, like minds here. Almost exactly what I shared in my post here on page one of this thread.

Cheers and best to you

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May 24, 2023 11:47:28   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
The shutter doesn’t protect the sensor but the mirror does.


Back when I was using Canons and Nikons rather heavily, I had a problem at least a few times a year with the mirror knocking bits of foam dampener around in the camera, along with metal shavings from lens mechanics and any excess lube Nikon tended to use. All that went away when I went to a mirrorless. I've had to wet clean my Lumix GH4 only twice since 2015. The sensor is always exposed (inside the camera, behind the lens) except for the instant when using the mechanical shutter.

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May 24, 2023 12:07:42   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
burkphoto wrote:
Back when I was using Canons and Nikons rather heavily, I had a problem at least a few times a year with the mirror knocking bits of foam dampener around in the camera, along with metal shavings from lens mechanics and any excess lube Nikon tended to use. All that went away when I went to a mirrorless. I've had to wet clean my Lumix GH4 only twice since 2015. The sensor is always exposed (inside the camera, behind the lens) except for the instant when using the mechanical shutter.



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May 24, 2023 12:56:35   #
maranatha
 
18 200 good lens can get most things done but you will have to spend to get good one

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May 24, 2023 12:58:50   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Longshadow wrote:
Don't change lenses????


Or don't buy Sony, he he

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May 24, 2023 13:40:01   #
tgreenhaw
 
I’ve always shot Canon. I’m always careful to quickly change the lenses and caps with the camera turned off. I have never had to clean the inside of my lenses or sensors ever. I just checked and they are pristine.

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May 24, 2023 14:10:03   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
I, also, make it a point to ensure that the camera is off when changing lenses. Furthermore, DSLRs have hardware in front of the sensor when not in the process of taking a photo. Mirrorless have no mirror (duhh).

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May 24, 2023 14:21:37   #
gwilliams6
 
burkphoto wrote:
Back when I was using Canons and Nikons rather heavily, I had a problem at least a few times a year with the mirror knocking bits of foam dampener around in the camera, along with metal shavings from lens mechanics and any excess lube Nikon tended to use. All that went away when I went to a mirrorless. I've had to wet clean my Lumix GH4 only twice since 2015. The sensor is always exposed (inside the camera, behind the lens) except for the instant when using the mechanical shutter.


Yes with proper technique you can easily keep mirrorless sensors clean.

Cheers and best to you.

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May 24, 2023 18:15:28   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
I own three Sony cameras and I shoot mainly with prime lenses. I have a red line on my camera lens mount at 10 o'clock and my lenses all have stick on pearls at 12 o'clock. When I change lenses I hold my camera down by the grip with my right hand. I unmount and mount the lenses very quickly the same as a Pentax K mount. I've been doing it this way for years and I only have to clean my sensors about twice a year.

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May 24, 2023 18:51:57   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
riderxlx wrote:
Stick with Nikons.
Bruce.




Don

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May 24, 2023 21:30:13   #
SlideArtist Loc: Connecticut
 
JohnR wrote:


Over the years I've had half a dozen or so Nikon APSC cameras with various lenses finishing with my present D5500 with 18-55mm kit lens and 18-300mm (a more useful lens) and in all this time I've NEVER had a problem with dirt/dust on the sensors ! Now every time I change lenses on my Sony A7M2 I have to remove the lens and clean the sensor. This also happened on a previous A7R and an Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mk II. Wonder what lesson we can learn from this ??
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Dirty sensors has been a major problem for me. I have an older and cheaper Sony 6000 but I purchased a 2.4 zoom Sony lens that I thought would be wonderful. It seems even when I leave that one lens on the sensor gets dirty-dreaded dark spot in blue sky syndrome. So the camera sits in my spare bag for two years now. It has almost no value at store where I bought it. So I switched to using simple P/S HX80 (go ahead laugh) but I've taken some mighty fine shots with it. For a little better camera, I have an bridge camera Panasonic FZ2000 and so far no sensor problems.

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May 24, 2023 22:43:34   #
EastendSteve Loc: New York Metropolitan Area
 
JohnR wrote:
That's why I have a 24-240mm for the Sony, an 18-300mm for my Nikon and a 12-200mm for my Olympus


And why I have the Sigma 60-600mm, aside from its decent price.

It's also great for developing your upper-body strength. It weighs about 3 kg. Ugh!

That's why I use it only for shooting nature (mostly birds) and air shows.

I make it a point to change lenses in an enclosed space whenever possible and as quickly as possible.

Note that some lenses, like my Sigma, are sealed, so they keep dust and dampness out. That's a factor. I have a 18-200mm lens that came with my D7100 and has dust inside, as careful as I am. I'm guessing that the lens isn't sealed.

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May 25, 2023 06:54:47   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
It surprises me that your Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mk II collects dust, If you ask me nobody manufactures a better cleaning sensor device like Olympus. In my many years using Olympus cameras not even once I had to clean the sensor.
I cannot say the same about Nikon. I have taken my D7000 several times over the years for sensor cleaning and I do not know how much it is charged to clean the sensor in your area but here in Miami it is pretty expensive.

My recommendation is to put the camera upside down when changing lenses and more so in a dusty environment. Blowing the sensor with a soft blowing device keeping the camera upside down removes dust that has not been attached to the sensor.
I would say that my D610 has done better dust wise than my D7000.

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May 25, 2023 07:24:53   #
adedeluca Loc: holbrook ny
 
I do basically the same It is often in the details

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