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May 22, 2023 09:14:36   #
steve49 Loc: massachusetts
 
Anyone used this?
I started to try it and it seemed to take a looong time so I bailed out.

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May 22, 2023 09:34:41   #
BobPeterson Loc: Massachusetts
 
For me Topaz takes longer and is easier to overcook. I like the new Lightroom denoise.

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May 22, 2023 11:35:42   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Yes, I've tried it. It is very good. Process times aren't bad if you have a strong computer.

I also have a current version of both Topaz DeNoise and Photo AI. So far, it seems that images will be treated with differently in each of the three systems.

Where I think I will be using it the most is when I have images shot with a long telephoto. I can increase the ISO enough that I can use shutter speeds for 'hand holding' in situations where tripods were the only solution. To test it, I've tried using my cameras on their highest ISO and been surprised with the result.

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May 22, 2023 13:02:39   #
steve49 Loc: massachusetts
 
Thanks.
I'll get back to it next time and give it a full shot.

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May 23, 2023 05:43:51   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
steve49 wrote:
Anyone used this?
I started to try it and it seemed to take a looong time so I bailed out.


I use photoshop with the new denoise feature and it is a lot faster than the older one, A LOT FASTER, and better.

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May 23, 2023 07:07:55   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
steve49 wrote:
Anyone used this?
I started to try it and it seemed to take a looong time so I bailed out.


I haven't tried it but do use Topaz. I also have ON1 and they claim their no-noise compares to Topaz but in my opinion, Topaz is still better. I'll have to try the Lightroom version. Thanks for broaching the subject.

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May 23, 2023 07:55:19   #
reguli Loc: Uruguay
 
steve49 wrote:
Anyone used this?
I started to try it and it seemed to take a looong time so I bailed out.


I use the new denoise tool and the time with an intel I9 gen 10 and a 22mpx photo it takes 45 sec to complete. Not bad if you need to denoise a few photos.

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May 23, 2023 08:02:13   #
CliffMcKenzie Loc: Lake Athens Texas
 
Sorry to report, but the speed issue reflects your current computer. CPU and now of equal importance GPU (graphics card) is the focus. The new Adobe Denoise is great especially on those images that are almost everything you want. I also use Topaz AI, Denoise and Sharpen...99% of time never together but as I feel that image demands. If your only denoise tool is Adobe, then start with sharpen at default (40) and use it without concern. If you are using like me other possible denoise tools, then set Detail Sharpen to 0 as the starting point. Hope this helps.

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May 23, 2023 09:31:42   #
Canisdirus
 
AI is not going to play well with average computers...from now on...it's intensive.

Adobe...right now...has the best out there.

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May 23, 2023 11:32:20   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
I have used the new Lr Denoise software and all I can saw is "WOW!". I will add that a newer, powerful computer is helpful. Luckily I am using a Mac Studio Ultra! Best of luck.

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May 23, 2023 11:37:17   #
photosfromtexas
 
Lightroom's DeNoise creates the least artifacts. On1 DeNoise 2023 is also great (2022 was worthless). Topaz Photo AI can be the best because it has many "sliders" you can use to sharpen the image. BUT.....doing that can generate artifacts such as around tree leaves and branches (like any over-sharpening program). Also I note that the color is often "prettier" when it comes back from Topaz, so it has processed that too (it is no longer the colors you sent into Topaz). This color addition is applied everywhere but NOT behind the branches of the trees.....and that area comes back whiter and brighter than what was sent into Topaz. Furthermore, it occasionally puts a grid of lines over your entire image that ruins it. It is most obvious over the large areas that are either very dark but occasionally the homogeneously blue sky). ON1 DeNoise 2023 has done that also to my pics, but only a few times. Admittedly, it is probably because of moving the sliders in Topaz that these artifacts are caused, but my advice is to review your image carefully as soon as you bring it back to LightRoom or Adobe.. Or you might print it a few days later and suddenly see those subtle halos or grid. ( I have not noticed any of those in the Adobe/LightRoom Enhance/deNoise).

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May 23, 2023 11:37:33   #
photosfromtexas
 
Lightroom's DeNoise creates the least artifacts. On1 DeNoise 2023 is also great (2022 was worthless). Topaz Photo AI can be the best because it has many "sliders" you can use to sharpen the image. BUT.....doing that can generate artifacts such as around tree leaves and branches (like any over-sharpening program). Also I note that the color is often "prettier" when it comes back from Topaz, so it has processed that too (it is no longer the colors you sent into Topaz). This color addition is applied everywhere but NOT behind the branches of the trees.....and that area comes back whiter and brighter than what was sent into Topaz. Furthermore, it occasionally puts a grid of lines over your entire image that ruins it. It is most obvious over the large areas that are either very dark but occasionally the homogeneously blue sky). ON1 DeNoise 2023 has done that also to my pics, but only a few times. Admittedly, it is probably because of moving the sliders in Topaz that these artifacts are caused, but my advice is to review your image carefully as soon as you bring it back to LightRoom or Adobe.. Or you might print it a few days later and suddenly see those subtle halos or grid. ( I have not noticed any of those in the Adobe/LightRoom Enhance/deNoise).

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May 23, 2023 15:15:33   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
steve49 wrote:
Anyone used this?
I started to try it and it seemed to take a looong time so I bailed out.


Takes less than a minute for Sony A7 raw files on my iMac which has 48Gb RAM

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May 23, 2023 15:23:11   #
steve49 Loc: massachusetts
 
I'll take another shot when I get back to the darkroom.

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May 23, 2023 20:43:52   #
gener202002
 
steve49 wrote:
Anyone used this?
I started to try it and it seemed to take a looong time so I bailed out.



It takes a little time on my computer, but only relatively speaking. Time fair but the outcome seems excellent to me.

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