I am an absolute newbie to post-processing. How should I process this image?
SonyA580
Loc: FL in the winter & MN in the summer
jmt455 wrote:
We just returned from a European trip. One of our outings was a night shoot with a professional photographer in Rome and I have several images from that outing that I want to print for display.
I have never really tried to process RAW image files, but I want to learn.
I have both the Sony Imaging software and GIMP, but am not very comfortable with either of them yet.
I would like to understand how to evaluate the image as well as how I should be proceeding with the processing.
If this were your photo, how would you evaluate the image and what improvements would you make?
Thanks in advance for your input!!!
Joe
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First, Sony has a free program you can download for editing ARW (RAW) files -
Sony Image Data Converter. There is a lighting problem because 2 different light sources are in use. The blue light is, to me, the most objectionable so I removed most of it. I also corrected some of the distortion and sharpened the image slightly.
SonyA580 wrote:
First, Sony has a free program you can download for editing ARW (RAW) files - Sony Image Data Converter. There is a lighting problem because 2 different light sources are in use. The blue light is, to me, the most objectionable so I removed most of it. I also corrected some of the distortion and sharpened the image slightly.
Thanks, SonyA580.
Does the Sony Image Data Converter offer any advantages or additional functionality over the Sony Imaging Edge Editing
https://creatorscloud.sony.net/catalog/en-us/ie-desktop/index.html software?
Joe
jmt455 wrote:
We just returned from a European trip. One of our outings was a night shoot with a professional photographer in Rome and I have several images from that outing that I want to print for display.
I have never really tried to process RAW image files, but I want to learn.
I have both the Sony Imaging software and GIMP, but am not very comfortable with either of them yet.
I would like to understand how to evaluate the image as well as how I should be proceeding with the processing.
If this were your photo, how would you evaluate the image and what improvements would you make?
Thanks in advance for your input!!!
Joe
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Hi Joe,
A very nice night picture. There isn't a lot that i would do to this image but here are the minor tweeks that I suggest. These can be done in either LR or PS.
1) I don't see a need for any noise reduction because I didn't see much and when applying even a small amount, it tends to obscured some the fine detail in the colosseum's stone structure.
I suggest:
2) not doing anything with the multiple colored light sources, since this is artifical and is the intended lighting by the park.
3) leveling the base of the colosseum. It feels as if its leaning to the left.
4) increase the brightness of the image by about 0.5-1 stop. This just increases the contrast a little.
5) dodge the colosseum's right and left side, further emphasizing the spot lighting on the structure
6) dodge and possibly sharpen the brightly lit internal areas of the colloseum's bottom level.
7) dodge the reflections in the water to add further emphasis.
Overall, the image was a little tilted and slightly underexposed for my taste. Rather than brightening the whole image, just selective brighten (dodge) areas you want to emphasize.
Mike
SalvageDiver wrote:
Hi Joe,
A very nice night picture. There isn't a lot that i would do to this image but here are the minor tweeks that I suggest. These can be done in either LR or PS.
1) I don't see a need for any noise reduction because I didn't see much and when applying even a small amount, it tends to obscured some the fine detail in the colosseum's stone structure.
I suggest:
2) not doing anything with the multiple colored light sources, since this is artifical and is the intended lighting by the park.
3) leveling the base of the colosseum. It feels as if its leaning to the left.
4) increase the brightness of the image by about 0.5-1 stop. This just increases the contrast a little.
5) dodge the colosseum's right and left side, further emphasizing the spot lighting on the structure
6) dodge and possibly sharpen the brightly lit internal areas of the colloseum's bottom level.
7) dodge the reflections in the water to add further emphasis.
Overall, the image was a little tilted and slightly underexposed for my taste. Rather than brightening the whole image, just selective brighten (dodge) areas you want to emphasize.
Mike
Hi Joe, br br A very nice night picture. There i... (
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Mike,
Thank you for the feedback and the specific recommendations.
I like what you did!
Joe
Lightroom is a powerful editing tool, and a fine choice if you want to begin learning how to edit your photos. If you're looking for something simpler, try a trial version of Luminar Neo - if you don't like it will cost you nothing.
terryMc
Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
jmt455 wrote:
Thank you for the insights.
I have learned that I can't open the Sony "RAW" files in GIMP without adding a file translator and I agree that GIMP doesn't seem very friendly.
I've made some adjustments to the image in the Sony editing package, but I don't see any way to make spot corrections with the Sony editor.
Is Lightroom the simplest editor to learn?
The GIMP is not capable of editing anything more than 8-bit images. Raw photos are higher than that. If you don't want Photoshop/Lightroom, try Affinity Photo 2.0. Not as capable as Camera Raw/Lightroom, but is a perpetual licence, not a subscription, and will edit your raw files.
jcryan
Loc: Las Terrenas, Dominican Republic
terryMc wrote:
The GIMP is not capable of editing anything more than 8-bit images. Raw photos are higher than that. If you don't want Photoshop/Lightroom, try Affinity Photo 2.0. Not as capable as Camera Raw/Lightroom, but is a perpetual licence, not a subscription, and will edit your raw files.
This is incorrect. The current version of GIMP supports 8, 16 & 32 bit Integer, and 16 & 32 bit Floting Point images.
jcryan
Loc: Las Terrenas, Dominican Republic
jmt455 wrote:
Thanks, I will check out Darktable.
I appreciate the comment about the photos, too.
Joe
I am a long time user of Darktable. Here is my edit using the Scene Referred Workflow, including the Rotate and Perspective module.
jcryan
Loc: Las Terrenas, Dominican Republic
jmt455 wrote:
Thanks, I will check out Darktable.
I appreciate the comment about the photos, too.
Joe
There is a bit of a learning curve with Darktable. If you use it I would recommend the Bruce Williams Photography YouTube channel. As a newbie, I can recommend starting with his "noobie" series in the current release, Episodes 124-129.
SonyA580
Loc: FL in the winter & MN in the summer
I'm not at all familiar with the Image Editing Program but from a quick look I'd say it is more of a studio type program whereas the Image Data Converter is more specifically for RAW image editing and not so much about all of the other bells and whistles. After using the Image Data Converter I send the image as a .tiff to PhotoShop for final touch ups and resizing. There are a ton of editing programs out there, some free, some not. I'd try the free ones first to get a feeling for what is possible in photo editing. I think you are off to a good start by shooting RAW.
terryMc
Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
jcryan wrote:
This is incorrect. The current version of GIMP supports 8, 16 & 32 bit Integer, and 16 & 32 bit Floting Point images.
I guess my knowledge of GIMP is outdated.
yssirk123 wrote:
Lightroom is a powerful editing tool, and a fine choice if you want to begin learning how to edit your photos. If you're looking for something simpler, try a trial version of Luminar Neo - if you don't like it will cost you nothing.
Thanks, Bill.
I'll take a look at Luminar Neo also.
Joe
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