A group of climbers decided to climb a peak in Yosemite, despite the fact that the sky was dark and cloudy. When they reached the summit, the weather was worse, but an experienced member of the group knew about a cave where they'd be safe. As the rain and thunder began, they headed for the cave. Just after they got inside, lightning struck the mountain and severely injured most of the climbers. Not much later, another bolt of lightning struck. They somehow managed to crawl far enough to get help, and they were taken to a hospital.
As they were healing, the idea of a lawsuit developed. They said that the rangers shouldn't have let them climb. As they were climbing, they passed warning signs, which they ignored. Pressure from others made them abandon the lawsuits. If they had gone through with them, the Parks Department feared it would drain their treasury and force closure of the park.
These people will live with their injuries for the rest of their lives, but this whole expedition was their choice, bad weather and warning signs included.
Always someone else's fault, isn't it.....
Iron Sight wrote:
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"Nah! They just had that sign lying around, and they thought they'd stick it in the ground. We know what we're doing."
Go and read the current tragedy in NZ. A group of school pupils and 2 adults cancelled a climbing trip because of the impending weather so went caving instead. And lost a pupil when the cave flooded. Who's at fault here is still being decided (and probably not any of the pupils) but you have to wonder about how this happens.
Been to White Island which is the event location Jerry started in the previous thread. Went 2 days after it had been reopened after a previous eruption. We were in no doubt about the risks being taken but fortunately the trip was uneventful. Went by helicopter. A once in a lifetime trip.
chrissybabe wrote:
Go and read the current tragedy in NZ. A group of school pupils and 2 adults cancelled a climbing trip because of the impending weather so went caving instead. And lost a pupil when the cave flooded. Who's at fault here is still being decided (and probably not any of the pupils) but you have to wonder about how this happens.
Been to White Island which is the event location Jerry started in the previous thread. Went 2 days after it had been reopened after a previous eruption. We were in no doubt about the risks being taken but fortunately the trip was uneventful. Went by helicopter. A once in a lifetime trip.
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There are so many deaths in both dry and wet caves. Dry caves get flooded, and wet caves trap divers. In many wet caves, there are signs warning divers to go no farther, but they go, anyway. The sign below has been posted in many caves.
jerryc41 wrote:
A group of climbers decided to climb a peak in Yosemite, despite the fact that the sky was dark and cloudy. When they reached the summit, the weather was worse, but an experienced member of the group knew about a cave where they'd be safe. As the rain and thunder began, they headed for the cave. Just after they got inside, lightning struck the mountain and severely injured most of the climbers. Not much later, another bolt of lightning struck. They somehow managed to crawl far enough to get help, and they were taken to a hospital.
As they were healing, the idea of a lawsuit developed. They said that the rangers shouldn't have let them climb. As they were climbing, they passed warning signs, which they ignored. Pressure from others made them abandon the lawsuits. If they had gone through with them, the Parks Department feared it would drain their treasury and force closure of the park.
These people will live with their injuries for the rest of their lives, but this whole expedition was their choice, bad weather and warning signs included.
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Common sense has died!!
The courts should not even consider a law suit involving such behavior .
Manglesphoto wrote:
Common sense has died!!
The courts should not even consider a law suit involving such behavior .
Right! Every time I drive into town, I see two billboards encouraging me to sue someone for something.
jerryc41 wrote:
Right! Every time I drive into town, I see two billboards encouraging me to sue someone for something.
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I was foolish enough to think those signs were just trying to help people with legitimate issues.
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Dannj wrote:
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I was foolish enough to think those signs were just trying to help people with legitimate issues.
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I was talking to a lawyer years ago, and he said that most of the new laws deal with banking and insurance. Last night, I saw a few minutes of a video about the insurance industry. It has laws custom-made to make their lives more profitable. Good for the industry, but bad for consumers.
I've been fortunate with insurance. It paid for a damaged boat, damaged cars, and it replaced my entire roof. Basically, I have had no bad experiences with insurance companies - mostly MetLife, which recently transferred me to Farmers. Shortly after we moved into our house fifty-seven years ago, a tree fell on the garage and damaged the roof. The insurance company we had at tyhe tiime paid to have it "repaired," not replaced. It still isn't right.
If my life insurance doesn't come through, I'm going to come back and haunt them.
jerryc41 wrote:
I was talking to a lawyer years ago, and he said that most of the new laws deal with banking and insurance. Last night, I saw a few minutes of a video about the insurance industry. It has laws custom-made to make their lives more profitable. Good for the industry, but bad for consumers.
I've been fortunate with insurance. It paid for a damaged boat, damaged cars, and it replaced my entire roof. Basically, I have had no bad experiences with insurance companies - mostly MetLife, which recently transferred me to Farmers. Shortly after we moved into our house fifty-seven years ago, a tree fell on the garage and damaged the roof. The insurance company we had at tyhe tiime paid to have it "repaired," not replaced. It still isn't right.
If my life insurance doesn't come through, I'm going to come back and haunt them.
I was talking to a lawyer years ago, and he said t... (
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When it comes to laws and regulations, money talks.
Stan
sgt hop
Loc: baltimore md,now in salisbury md
jerryc41 wrote:
A group of climbers decided to climb a peak in Yosemite, despite the fact that the sky was dark and cloudy. When they reached the summit, the weather was worse, but an experienced member of the group knew about a cave where they'd be safe. As the rain and thunder began, they headed for the cave. Just after they got inside, lightning struck the mountain and severely injured most of the climbers. Not much later, another bolt of lightning struck. They somehow managed to crawl far enough to get help, and they were taken to a hospital.
As they were healing, the idea of a lawsuit developed. They said that the rangers shouldn't have let them climb. As they were climbing, they passed warning signs, which they ignored. Pressure from others made them abandon the lawsuits. If they had gone through with them, the Parks Department feared it would drain their treasury and force closure of the park.
These people will live with their injuries for the rest of their lives, but this whole expedition was their choice, bad weather and warning signs included.
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blame the hyena lawyers.....they may not had an idea of suing....till the vultures closed in on
em......
jerryc41 wrote:
A group of climbers decided to climb a peak in Yosemite, despite the fact that the sky was dark and cloudy. When they reached the summit, the weather was worse, but an experienced member of the group knew about a cave where they'd be safe. As the rain and thunder began, they headed for the cave. Just after they got inside, lightning struck the mountain and severely injured most of the climbers. Not much later, another bolt of lightning struck. They somehow managed to crawl far enough to get help, and they were taken to a hospital.
As they were healing, the idea of a lawsuit developed. They said that the rangers shouldn't have let them climb. As they were climbing, they passed warning signs, which they ignored. Pressure from others made them abandon the lawsuits. If they had gone through with them, the Parks Department feared it would drain their treasury and force closure of the park.
These people will live with their injuries for the rest of their lives, but this whole expedition was their choice, bad weather and warning signs included.
A group of climbers decided to climb a peak in Yos... (
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Sign of the times, do something stupid and sue if it goes sideways.
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