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May 5, 2023 08:55:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
There's another big problem/concern with EVs: the weight. An EV weighs up to 3,000 pounds more than a gasoline-powered version of the same car. This is a real concern is one of these runs into another car. It is also a concern where the weight of the car is important - like in a parking garage. I think we all have to back to walking and riding bicycles.

https://www.axios.com/2023/04/28/evs-weight-safety-problems

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May 5, 2023 09:20:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Or old covered bridges?
How many EV owners know the weight of their vehicle.
Yea, when they built parking garages, they probably used a different weight basis......

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May 5, 2023 09:27:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
Or old covered bridges?
How many EV owners know the weight of their vehicle.
Yea, when they built parking garages, they probably used a different weight basis......


In NY, license plate/registration cost is based on weight. Prius - over 3,000 lb; My Fit - 2,500 lb.

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May 5, 2023 09:44:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In NY, license plate/registration cost is based on weight. Prius - over 3,000 lb; My Fit - 2,500 lb.

When I was in Florida I had a used dressed E-150 conversion van, I thought it was heavy by the way it drove.
I took it to the nearby county truck scales one day, somewhere around 5,000+ I think. I was surprised.....
(At least it had a 351W 4bbl in it.)
PA may register based on weight also. I don't remember Florida.

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May 5, 2023 09:54:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
When I was in Florida I had a used dressed E-150 conversion van, I thought it was heavy by the way it drove.
I took it to the nearby county truck scales one day, somewhere around 5,000+ I think. I was surprised.....
(At least it had a 351W 4bbl in it.)
PA may register based on weight also. I don't remember Florida.


Conversion vans can get heavy. Ford is using more aluminum on its trucks now. You're not going to see a new car with a 4bbl any time soon. I was very good at working on carburetors. Fuel injection? It's all computerized.

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May 5, 2023 10:06:20   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Conversion vans can get heavy. Ford is using more aluminum on its trucks now. You're not going to see a new car with a 4bbl any time soon. I was very good at working on carburetors. Fuel injection? It's all computerized.


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May 5, 2023 15:42:36   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There's another big problem/concern with EVs: the weight. An EV weighs up to 3,000 pounds more than a gasoline-powered version of the same car. This is a real concern is one of these runs into another car. It is also a concern where the weight of the car is important - like in a parking garage. I think we all have to back to walking and riding bicycles.

https://www.axios.com/2023/04/28/evs-weight-safety-problems


There is talk about switching from lithium batteries to batteries that use sodium. Sodium is essentially an unlimited resource. Sodium based batteries produce less energy by weight and are therefore going to be heavier than the ones used in today's electric cars to produce as much power.

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May 6, 2023 06:18:49   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There's another big problem/concern with EVs: the weight. An EV weighs up to 3,000 pounds more than a gasoline-powered version of the same car. This is a real concern is one of these runs into another car. It is also a concern where the weight of the car is important - like in a parking garage. I think we all have to back to walking and riding bicycles.

https://www.axios.com/2023/04/28/evs-weight-safety-problems


Has anyone thought about the tire life on an EV?

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May 6, 2023 06:22:26   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Has anyone thought about the tire life on an EV?


I can't think about too many things at once. Maybe I'll do that tomorrow.

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May 6, 2023 06:45:48   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
There is new Battery Chemistry (Lithium - Sulphur) on the horizon offering a higher energy density. You could have longer range or a smaller battery but the manufacturers are likely to choose the middle ground offering a slightly longer range with a slightly smaller battery.

Tyre life may be shortened because the EV puts down a lot of power instantly. Rubber 'dust' may well become the new CO2. I would not be surprised to see the roads worsen here (UK) as skims have got shallow and there is little integrity to the road. We've got potholes that have been adopted by Caving Clubs and sections where a relaid surface has just been torn away from the previous surface.

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May 6, 2023 06:54:54   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Has anyone thought about the tire life on an EV?


I read that they required special, more expensive tires because of the weight

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May 6, 2023 06:58:51   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I can't think about too many things at once. Maybe I'll do that tomorrow.


Well Jerry
My 99 Explorer weighs in at 4600 lbs. the tire tread is approx 8" wide and the dia is approx 30" Tire mileage 25k-30k
Now put 4000 lbs, plus on tires that have a approx dia 24" and a approx width of 5"- 6" Just another reason for me to stay with a gas burner.

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May 6, 2023 07:06:20   #
HamB
 
There was a quick story that EV's were responsible for a recent NYC parking garage collapse.

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May 6, 2023 07:16:23   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Jerry, not so for Tesla... you read too many Hate Tesla comments.

Here are all of Tesla’s current models sorted from heaviest to lightest:

5,390 lbs – Model X Plaid
5,185 lbs – Model X Long Range
4,766 lbs – Model S Plaid
4,561 lbs – Model S Long Range
4,416 lbs – Model Y Long Range/Performance
4,065 lbs – Model 3 Long Range/Performance
3,582 lbs – Model 3 Standard Range Plus
2,723 lbs Gen. 1 Tesla Roadster
https://electrek.co/2021/08/02/how-much-does-a-tesla-weigh-comparing-each-model/

ICE vehicles are also heavy:
Small autos usually way around 2,500 pounds and large automobiles about 4,200 pounds. SUVs or trucks can range from 3,500 pounds to over 6,000 pounds.
https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/average-weight-of-a-car

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May 6, 2023 07:27:59   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Has anyone thought about the tire life on an EV?


How about brakes and suspension?

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