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Apr 23, 2023 11:35:05   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Mileagemaker wrote:
I have a Nikon Z-50 with an 18-50, 18-300 and 18-400. Thinking of buying a Sony RX10iv and selling my Nikon Z-50. Appreciate your comments.

I would rent a Nikon Z 100-400 lens for a few days first and see if that doesn't do better for you. Or a 300 f4 PF with an FTZ adapter.

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Apr 23, 2023 12:58:55   #
Mileagemaker Loc: Jackson NJ
 
Thanks again for your comments.

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Apr 23, 2023 13:08:52   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
I have used the Nikon 200 - 500 for BIF with D500, D850 and Df. I have no complaints about the lens and they are now on sale which in my judgment is a very good buy. I'd try (or rent) a 200-500 and use it with the convertor on your Z50. I think using a very high zoom rate lens (18-300 or 18-400) is asking more than the lens design can deliver. I don't have my Zfc with me but I would bet it would yield similar results to your MILC.

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Apr 23, 2023 13:28:48   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Mileagemaker wrote:
I have a Nikon Z-50 with an 18-50, 18-300 and 18-400. Thinking of buying a Sony RX10iv and selling my Nikon Z-50. Appreciate your comments.


I have had the Sony for about 18 months now. The lens at the long end rivals the best lens I have ever used - the 300 2.8 CANON ....which blows the theory of large ratio zooms being un-useably compromised for serious work out of the water.... The AF is effectively instantaneous ! The lens at the wide end is also very, very GOOD. At ISO 100/200 the images rival ANYTHING out there on the market IMO ! Yes, I have FF and crop frame Sony and Canon for my comparison. ISO 400 is acceptable for me - beyond 400 and you need/should have lots of software and know how to use - it IMO......

Look at my UHH postings over the last 18 months to see my results. I only shoot JPEGS. Most current users find the battery life their biggest complaint. At first the electronic zoom seemed very foreign but over time I have come to somewhat like it !

Having said all this, If Sony ( or SOMEONE) were to come out with a M4/3 version of this camera with a Zeiss 12-300mm (24-600 equiv. ) f3.3-5 - for $2200, I would be the first in line to purchase.
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Apr 23, 2023 13:47:35   #
Mr. SONY Loc: LI, NY
 
imagemeister wrote:
I have had the Sony for about 18 months now. The lens at the long end rivals the best lens I have ever used - the 300 2.8 CANON ....which blows the theory of large ratio zooms being un-useably compromised for serious work out of the water.... The AF is effectively instantaneous ! The lens at the wide end is also very, very GOOD. At ISO 100/200 the images rival ANYTHING out there on the market IMO ! Yes, I have FF and crop frame Sony and Canon for my comparison. ISO 400 is acceptable for me - beyond 400 and you need/should have lots of software and know how to use - it IMO......

Look at my UHH postings over the last 18 months to see my results. I only shoot JPEGS. Most current users find the battery life their biggest complaint. At first the electronic zoom seemed very foreign but over time I have come to somewhat like it !

Having said all this, If Sony ( or SOMEONE) were to come out with a M4/3 version of this camera with a Zeiss 12-300mm (24-600 equiv. ) f3.3-5 - for $2200, I would be the first in line to purchase.
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I have had the Sony for about 18 months now. The ... (show quote)


I think this picture ends all doubts about the capabilities of the RX4, doesn't it.

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Apr 23, 2023 14:02:56   #
gwilliams6
 
imagemeister wrote:
I have had the Sony for about 18 months now. The lens at the long end rivals the best lens I have ever used - the 300 2.8 CANON ....which blows the theory of large ratio zooms being un-useably compromised for serious work out of the water.... The AF is effectively instantaneous ! The lens at the wide end is also very, very GOOD. At ISO 100/200 the images rival ANYTHING out there on the market IMO ! Yes, I have FF and crop frame Sony and Canon for my comparison. ISO 400 is acceptable for me - beyond 400 and you need/should have lots of software and know how to use - it IMO......

Look at my UHH postings over the last 18 months to see my results. I only shoot JPEGS. Most current users find the battery life their biggest complaint. At first the electronic zoom seemed very foreign but over time I have come to somewhat like it !

Having said all this, If Sony ( or SOMEONE) were to come out with a M4/3 version of this camera with a Zeiss 12-300mm (24-600 equiv. ) f3.3-5 - for $2200, I would be the first in line to purchase.
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I have had the Sony for about 18 months now. The ... (show quote)


I have seen superb wildlife and BIF shots with that Sony, no worries there. I know many pros that also keep that camera in their kit alongside their other Sony bodies.

With its stacked sensor the RX10IV has many speed and AF advantages in both stills and video:
https://www.sony.com/za/electronics/cyber-shot-compact-cameras/dsc-rx10m4

https://www.sony.net/Products/di_photo-gallery/camera/DSC-RX10M4/

Wild and Beautiful, a year with wildlife and the Sony RX10iv:
https://psnp.info/psnp_/?cat=25

Cheers

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Apr 23, 2023 14:05:02   #
gwilliams6
 
imagemeister wrote:
I have had the Sony for about 18 months now. The lens at the long end rivals the best lens I have ever used - the 300 2.8 CANON ....which blows the theory of large ratio zooms being un-useably compromised for serious work out of the water.... The AF is effectively instantaneous ! The lens at the wide end is also very, very GOOD. At ISO 100/200 the images rival ANYTHING out there on the market IMO ! Yes, I have FF and crop frame Sony and Canon for my comparison. ISO 400 is acceptable for me - beyond 400 and you need/should have lots of software and know how to use - it IMO......

Look at my UHH postings over the last 18 months to see my results. I only shoot JPEGS. Most current users find the battery life their biggest complaint. At first the electronic zoom seemed very foreign but over time I have come to somewhat like it !

Having said all this, If Sony ( or SOMEONE) were to come out with a M4/3 version of this camera with a Zeiss 12-300mm (24-600 equiv. ) f3.3-5 - for $2200, I would be the first in line to purchase.
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I have had the Sony for about 18 months now. The ... (show quote)


Great shot

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Apr 23, 2023 14:05:22   #
gwilliams6
 
Mr. SONY wrote:
I think this picture ends all doubts about the capabilities of the RX4, doesn't it.



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Apr 23, 2023 14:17:33   #
Luft93 Loc: Finger Lakes, NY
 
Mileagemaker wrote:
I have a Nikon Z-50 with an 18-50, 18-300 and 18-400. Thinking of buying a Sony RX10iv and selling my Nikon Z-50. Appreciate your comments.


I have had the RX10M4 since it was announced how many years ago. It deserves all the good comments seen here for a long time. You would be quite pleased to use one.

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Apr 23, 2023 14:50:34   #
gwilliams6
 
Luft93 wrote:
I have had the RX10M4 since it was announced how many years ago. It deserves all the good comments seen here for a long time. You would be quite pleased to use one.



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Apr 23, 2023 15:00:57   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
I have the Sony RX10m4. I also own the Sony A1 and A9. I have the Sony 200-600mm G lens. The RX10m4 does almost as well as my A1 with the 200-600mm but for a lot less money and weight. I highly recommend the RX10m4 if not for a primary camera then an excellent back up camera. If Sony ever comes out with the RX10m5 I will be standing in line for that camera.

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Apr 23, 2023 17:48:04   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Mr. SONY wrote:
I think this picture ends all doubts about the capabilities of the RX4, doesn't it.


There is a fair bit of noise.

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Apr 23, 2023 18:19:16   #
gwilliams6
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
There is a fair bit of noise.


Noise is really no problem anymore with Topaz Denoise AI, DXO PureRaw, Adobe AI Denoise and others.

Cheers and best to you.

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Apr 23, 2023 20:35:48   #
bjojade Loc: Wausau, WI
 
The Sony is a fine camera, relatively inexpensive, and amazingly flexible. But, if you compare it against better cameras, you'll see why serious photographers spend far more money on the higher end cameras. At first glance, the differences may be subtle, but the more you shoot, you'll see that you're getting what you pay for.

Just like you can get some amazing shots with a smartphone, it's still not the same class as using the higher end gear.

As a hobbyist camera, it's hard to beat though. Certainly hits above its weight class!

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Apr 23, 2023 20:45:08   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
bjojade wrote:
The Sony is a fine camera, relatively inexpensive, and amazingly flexible. But, if you compare it against better cameras, you'll see why serious photographers spend far more money on the higher end cameras. At first glance, the differences may be subtle, but the more you shoot, you'll see that you're getting what you pay for.

Just like you can get some amazing shots with a smartphone, it's still not the same class as using the higher end gear.

As a hobbyist camera, it's hard to beat though. Certainly hits above its weight class!
The Sony is a fine camera, relatively inexpensive,... (show quote)


Yes, but if everyone was totally honest - very few people NEED the little difference that highly more expensive "higher end" cameras provide no matter how "serious" they are ....myself included !

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