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Mar 29, 2023 15:05:00   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I love you did that. I had a psychiatrist come to the house to take a look at my collection of quite a large number a year ago with pretty much the same diagnosis. I also had a medical doctor come take a look at one time and my firearms also received a clean and safe bill of health. Not one of them was thought to ever go off and injure anybody on its own.

Dennis



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Mar 29, 2023 15:11:46   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Huey Driver wrote:
I doubt most rational people would challenge these statements? Gun violence is out of control in America these days and our gun laws aren’t working and probably never will as most people intent on evil, never have and probably never will be controlled by laws.

Some will try and say guns (inanimate objects something some don’t seem to understand) are the problem. Many think it’s the AR style rifles in particular are the main problem as they have been used in so many mass shootings and well publicized by the media. America has 20 million AR-15 style rifles in circulation and more total guns than people. Most of these are probably only guns we know about, not the ones kept illegally in hiding. There are numerous other guns out there that are available and as lethal as the AR such as the AK, simply not as well known. Is it reasonable to think that a gun ban or more gun laws of any kind will take guns out of the hands of those who would be inclined to use them illegally (mass shooters, thugs, gang members, drug dealers, etc.)? I think not.

Our precious leaders whom we have elected into powerful positions are on my list of “people who have become too powerful and most of what they do today seems to be more for their own interest rather than what’s good for everyone”. Don’t believe that? How is it so many take positions as average citizens and shortly they are millionaires? They continue to try and pass laws that will probably not affect gun violence much if at all. I think our legislators’ efforts with regard to mass shooters is mostly to make the public think they are constructively working for the public’s interest? Now here in Texas our latest proposal making the news would make it mandatory for each school to have at least one security person on duty during school hours. If not thoroughly thought out this sounds like a good idea. But, many if not most of the security guards I seem to see are fat older and close to retirement, retired or semi-retired men and women similar to myself and at best some law enforcement officers working a spare job part time. I have little or no problem with most police officers working school security if they are in reasonably decent physical shape and not just some fat old badly out of shape men or women.

It seems most of our high school buildings have become monstrous in size in order to accommodate all the kids today. Now imagine this scenario if you will. XYZ school has an enrollment of 2,020 students and the building that houses these students is close to a football field in length. It has one (not in good physical shape) security guard. He or she is at one end of the building when an active shooter enters the opposite end of the building. To do his/her job of protecting those in the building he/she has to sprint as fast as possible to the far end of the building to be of any value in engaging the shooter. If you are a gun owner you probably know it’s hard enough to fire a hand gun accurately when your calm, cool and not gasping for air just to breathe.

While I am not saying the security guard idea is a total waste but is that really the best solution our elected officials can come up with? In my view it’s sort of like using a band-aid to stop bleeding from a main artery.

My best suggestion would be: one or more metal detectors at the main entrances as needed. NO ONE goes in without passing through one of the detectors. All other external doors to be locked electronically with numerous unlock switches throughout the school but only selected teachers or employees have an unlock key that would unlock all doors in case of an emergency exit being necessary.

The problem of gun violence today is not something to just think about, pass some laws you know probably won’t really help much and then slide it to the back burner until it happens again: (this seems to be currently our Nations Modus Operandi). If we continue to do similarly the same as we are doing now and what we have done in the past there is no doubt mass shootings will continue. It has become not just a thorn in our side but it has become an epidemic.

Would my suggestion be expensive: no doubt. Although my suggestion probably might never be 100% effective I have no doubt it certainly would be more effective than what we are currently doing and most of the suggestions I have heard so far.

Cost seems to be the problem? How much is the life of one or more kids, teachers or others worth? How to pay for it? Start by convincing the federal government to subtract all or an annual percentage amount needed to fund the project from the foreign aid we give away too many countries now who would gladly spit on our graves if the money stopped. Let’s help ourselves first and do something for America instead of just sugar coating the problem with more laws that evil will just ignore.

Huey
I doubt most rational people would challenge these... (show quote)


Every time I see this on the news and especially see those children, I get sick to my stomach at the evil in this world. Its not the guns, its the mentally unstable nuts, like these t*********rs and others, out there that have been created by this society over the last 50 years.

I remember back in the 50's and 60's that there were hardly ever any mass shootings, especially in elementary schools....not sure if its going to get any better, its not the guns, its the mentally unstable and unaccountable criminal culture this country has created.

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Mar 29, 2023 16:07:19   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
LDB415 wrote:
Never thought about getting a shrink to do an evaluation. Went with a priest who did an exorcism and declared no evil spirits or intentions in them or anything else in the house either.


I am pretty sure that should work as well or better than having a shrink take a look. I commend you on your perseverance to make sure your firearms are well intentioned with their no possibility of having thoughts.

Dennis

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Mar 29, 2023 16:20:39   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Blaster34 wrote:
Every time I see this on the news and especially see those children, I get sick to my stomach at the evil in this world. Its not the guns, its the mentally unstable nuts, like these t*********rs and others, out there that have been created by this society over the last 50 years.

I remember back in the 50's and 60's that there were hardly ever any mass shootings, especially in elementary schools....not sure if its going to get any better, its not the guns, its the mentally unstable and unaccountable criminal culture this country has created.
Every time I see this on the news and especially s... (show quote)


I do not recall any in the 50's, not saying there were none, just saying I recall none. Of course there were assault type rifles in use by civilians then such as the M1 carbine with at least a 15 round magazine. How strange nobody ever thought to using one to commit a mass shooting. The first mass shooting I recall was Charles Whitman at the Texas Tower in the early 1960's.

Repeating firearms were in use during the Revolutionary War yet the Left tells us the 2nd Amendment only refers to the single shot muskets in use at the time. Actually the concept of repeating firearms predates the Revolutionary War and the 2nd Amendment by several centuries. The Left continuing to spread i***tic statements that the Founding Fathers knew ONLY of single shot muskets is an outright lie on their part. The Lorenzoni repeating flintlock was designed in 1688 by Michael Lorenzoni. The Chelembrom magazine repeating flintlock rifle was the 18th century's AR15, having a 20 round magazine. Obviously the Founding Fathers knew of repeating firearms though they were not necessarily used frequently in military engagements. There were other repeating flintlock firearms but these are two of them.

Dennis

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Mar 29, 2023 16:28:19   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I do not recall any in the 50's, not saying there were none, just saying I recall none. Of course there were assault type rifles in use by civilians then such as the M1 carbine with at least a 15 round magazine. How strange nobody ever thought to using one to commit a mass shooting. The first mass shooting I recall was Charles Whitman at the Texas Tower in the early 1960's.

Repeating firearms were in use during the Revolutionary War yet the Left tells us the 2nd Amendment only refers to the single shot muskets in use at the time. Actually the concept of repeating firearms predates the Revolutionary War and the 2nd Amendment by several centuries. The Left continuing to spread i***tic statements that the Founding Fathers knew ONLY of single shot muskets is an outright lie on their part. The Lorenzoni repeating flintlock was designed in 1688 by Michael Lorenzoni. The Chelembrom magazine repeating flintlock rifle was the 18th century's AR15, having a 20 round magazine. Obviously the Founding Fathers knew of repeating firearms though they were not necessarily used frequently in military engagements. There were other repeating flintlock firearms but these are two of them.

Dennis
I do not recall any in the 50's, not saying there ... (show quote)


So true Dennis, I was in Army Infantry OCS at Ft Benning in '66 when the Texas Tower shooting took place, about the only one I heard about in that time frame....and at that time I WAS training on real 'assault-type' weapons, you name the weapon, we fired it....There are no real 'assault weapons' sold in the private sector, just high capacity magazines. When the Libs don't get their way, they demonize everything, including creating the 'assault weapon' terminology to advance their agenda....All my weapons live in a large fireproof safe and they are all quite mentally content.... Cheers

PS, it was noted that Whitman had a brain tumor that was causing mental issues.

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Mar 29, 2023 16:29:37   #
Bill 45
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You say this i***tic bulls**t while not wanting to ban everything that harms our children including vehicles, doing something positive about banning those politicians like Biden who has done absolutely NOTHING to stop f******l from coming into America, and every other object that can be used to harm children.

I asked you once before, do you STILL own firearms of any type? If so then you deserve to be right at the front of the line of those people you bad mouth for owning firearms that can harm children. You are a lying corrupt hypocrite if you post this bulls**t and still own any firearms at all.

Dennis
You say this i***tic bulls**t while not wanting to... (show quote)


Like I told you before I do not own any firearm any more.

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Mar 29, 2023 16:36:20   #
Bill 45
 
Huey Driver wrote:
Yes, it really infuriates me when one of those unattended guns jumps off the table and goes on a rampage. I really like today's firearms as no mentally challenged human need be involved now for them to dispense their evil.


Go a head and make fun of what I writing about. But, damn you if one of your kids or grandkids are k**l from gun fire.

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Mar 29, 2023 16:47:43   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bill 45 wrote:
Like I told you before I do not own any firearm any more.


OK. I heard you. No reason to get all uppity about it. Calm down before you suffer a stroke.

What did you do with them? If you got rid of them to anybody but a law enforcement agency to be destroyed then they are STILL a danger to society aren't they?

Dennis

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Mar 29, 2023 16:53:00   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
LDB415 wrote:
Never thought about getting a shrink to do an evaluation. Went with a priest who did an exorcism and declared no evil spirits or intentions in them or anything else in the house either.


Do yourself a favor and keep that priest away from your children.

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Mar 29, 2023 17:02:58   #
Bill 45
 
dennis2146 wrote:
OK. I heard you. No reason to get all uppity about it. Calm down before you suffer a stroke.

What did you do with them? If you got rid of them to anybody but a law enforcement agency to be destroyed then they are STILL a danger to society aren't they?

Dennis


Turn a gun over to cop would be the last thing I would do. The cop would not report it, keep the gun for himself or would sell it. Don't tell me that does not happen, I have seen it and have retier cops tell me their have done it.

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Mar 29, 2023 17:31:27   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bill 45 wrote:
Turn a gun over to cop would be the last thing I would do. The cop would not report it, keep the gun for himself or would sell it. Don't tell me that does not happen, I have seen it and have retier cops tell me their have done it.


And yet you most likely have not reported these police officers to their superior for violating the law? Have you done that OR have you just gone right along with the corruption?

And SO tell us what exactly did you do with those firearms?

Dennis

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Mar 30, 2023 09:09:01   #
Bill 45
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And yet you most likely have not reported these police officers to their superior for violating the law? Have you done that OR have you just gone right along with the corruption?

And SO tell us what exactly did you do with those firearms?

Dennis


Would you turn in cop for not reporting a firearm and kept it for he or she self? It one of those deep dark things about cops no one wants to talk about or do anything about. To answer your second question have them destory.

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Mar 30, 2023 09:46:43   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bill 45 wrote:
Would you turn in cop for not reporting a firearm and kept it for he or she self? It one of those deep dark things about cops no one wants to talk about or do anything about. To answer your second question have them destory.


Well, yes I would. I HAVE turned in police officers for violating a law. Why is it you on the LEFT always seem to think you hold the superiority on the grounds of morality? Trust me on this, not a one of you do. Take a look at the lies and corruption on the political Left. I have given lists before of Left Wing politicians who are right at the bottom of the barrel, lower than whale s**t, absolute positive examples of the criminal mind, so to speak. Let's not forget both Clintons, at least Barack Obama, the entire Biden family including Jill, John Kerry, Sleazy Harry Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, James Comey, a number of high ranking FBI personnel and quite a few lower corrupt personnel, James Clapper, Lois Lerner, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch and a host of others.

Yes, of course, there is corruption on the Right as well. I am more than happy to see those people be v**ed out of office or put in jail if the charges warrant.

For some reason you state corrupt police officers are one of those dark things no one wants to talk about or do anything about. Are you so blind or just plain ignorant to not realize that in every profession some employees stick up for other employees and turn a blind eye to them violating the law or company policies. You make it sound as if this is ONLY something cops would do. It is not limited only to cops. How completely Left Wingish of you to make that statement. Every profession on the planet has people who are corrupt, who are unethical. You DO know that, RIGHT???

You had your firearms destroyed, did you? How did you do that, may I ask? Did you have them cut into pieces, throw them into the ocean 25 miles out, were they welded to be inoperable? What? To tell you the t***h Billy 45 I suspect you did not have them destroyed at all and they are right there still in your house under your safe keeping.
I say that because I do not believe you. You are one of those hypocritical Left Wingers who believes you are a good person and would never violate the law nor ever use one of your firearms to shoot someone; but you believe OTHERS, me for example, would shoot someone with one of my firearms. If you were telling the t***h you would have told us how they were destroyed, not just leave it as, have them destroyed.

Here is my take on destroying firearms. I will never have mine destroyed, will never turn them in even if ordered to do so. I would do all I could to hide them from a corrupt government taking them. I did turn in one handgun years ago. The SBPD was offering a $50.00 gift certificate for firearms turned in. This was a small broken .22 semi auto handgun that was never going to work again due to missing parts. It wasn't worth anything even for parts. But given a chance of getting $50.00 for a piece of broken metal was like heaven opening up for me. I never have missed that clunker.

Dennis

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