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Extremeist/D******c T*******t/Conservatives Atack Atlanta Police/Fire Training Center
Mar 7, 2023 08:14:53   #
Watash
 
https://www.foxnews.com/us/atlanta-police-name-23-domestic-terrorism-suspects-cop-city-attack-ag-warns-violent-extremists

The Woke/Marxist/Leninist Dems were right about these dangerous people!
No, wait! I'm so sorry! My bad!

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Mar 7, 2023 11:14:56   #
National Park
 
Pretty simple: both left wing extremists and right wing extremists should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Neither are "good people."

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Mar 8, 2023 00:31:26   #
btbg
 
National Park wrote:
Pretty simple: both left wing extremists and right wing extremists should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Neither are "good people."


The problem here is that one of the left wing extremist here worked for the Southern Poverty Center, which is the leading clearinghouse that the U.S. uses to label people as terrorists. So, in a nut shell the real terrorists were pointing their fingers at patriots and labeling them as terrorists.

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Mar 8, 2023 05:27:54   #
National Park
 
btbg wrote:
The problem here is that one of the left wing extremist here worked for the Southern Poverty Center, which is the leading clearinghouse that the U.S. uses to label people as terrorists. So, in a nut shell the real terrorists were pointing their fingers at patriots and labeling them as terrorists.



It appears that it remains to be seen whether the Southern Poverty Law Center attorney who was arrested was himself participating in terrorism activities. Unlike the others who were arrested who were all dressed all in black, he was wearing a bright green shirt and a yellow hat with National Lawyers Guild written on it to show he was a legal observer. Although the prosecutor correctly said that just because you are a lawyer it doesn't mean you aren't a terrorist, the prosecutor appeared to have doubts about the case because he consented to a bond which the judge then set at $5000. So it remains to be seen whether the attorney participated in terrorist activities or was a legal observer. That will be determined as his case winds its way through the legal system. In any event, if he engaged in terrorism he should be prosecuted regardless of who he works for. Also, if he engaged in terrorism activities it doesn't mean his employer, the Southern Poverty Law Center, is a terrorist organization unless it can be shown that the Center encouraged his terrorist behavior.

Like I said, both left wing extremists and right wing extremists should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Neither should be normalized by the body politic either directly or through code words. Both sides are "real terrorists." Both sides pose a threat to our nation.

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Mar 8, 2023 11:10:33   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
National Park wrote:
Pretty simple: both left wing extremists and right wing extremists should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Neither are "good people."




Who defines the extremist, my guess is an extremist of a different persuasion. Our Bill of Rights gives us the ability or right to be an extremist, prosecution is only for extremists that break the law.

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Mar 8, 2023 11:52:57   #
National Park
 
letmedance wrote:
Who defines the extremist, my guess is an extremist of a different persuasion. Our Bill of Rights gives us the ability or right to be an extremist, prosecution is only for extremists that break the law.

I agree. Extremism is in the eye of the beholder. My eye says extremism exist on both sides; others may have a different opinion. That's why extremists, like anyone else, are protected by the Bill of Rights from being prosecuted unless they break the law. Conversely, a person having an extreme view that you or I might agree with should not prevent the person from being prosecuted if they break the law.

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Mar 8, 2023 12:14:31   #
btbg
 
National Park wrote:
It appears that it remains to be seen whether the Southern Poverty Law Center attorney who was arrested was himself participating in terrorism activities. Unlike the others who were arrested who were all dressed all in black, he was wearing a bright green shirt and a yellow hat with National Lawyers Guild written on it to show he was a legal observer. Although the prosecutor correctly said that just because you are a lawyer it doesn't mean you aren't a terrorist, the prosecutor appeared to have doubts about the case because he consented to a bond which the judge then set at $5000. So it remains to be seen whether the attorney participated in terrorist activities or was a legal observer. That will be determined as his case winds its way through the legal system. In any event, if he engaged in terrorism he should be prosecuted regardless of who he works for. Also, if he engaged in terrorism activities it doesn't mean his employer, the Southern Poverty Law Center, is a terrorist organization unless it can be shown that the Center encouraged his terrorist behavior.

Like I said, both left wing extremists and right wing extremists should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Neither should be normalized by the body politic either directly or through code words. Both sides are "real terrorists." Both sides pose a threat to our nation.
It appears that it remains to be seen whether the ... (show quote)


I agree with your last sentence. So, why have those on the right ,1*6, been prosecuted with the full force of the law, while those who attacked the Federal Courthouse in Portland for more than 100 nights straight had nothing happen to them? Our law enforcement is not treating both groups the same.

As to the Southern Poverty Law Center "observer" ask yourself these questions. Why was he "observing" was it to help apprehend the perpetrators? Clearly not as the Southern Poverty Law Center is on record opposing the construction project.

Question 2, how did he know to be there to observe? Because it is obvious that he knew in advance that there was going to be trouble. As an officer of the court is he not obligated to report that there is going to be trouble to the authorities.

And, three, if he was only observing why are their reports that they have video of him throwing a molotov cocktail.

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Mar 8, 2023 12:38:09   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
btbg wrote:
I agree with your last sentence. So, why have those on the right ,1*6, been prosecuted with the full force of the law, while those who attacked the Federal Courthouse in Portland for more than 100 nights straight had nothing happen to them? Our law enforcement is not treating both groups the same.

As to the Southern Poverty Law Center "observer" ask yourself these questions. Why was he "observing" was it to help apprehend the perpetrators? Clearly not as the Southern Poverty Law Center is on record opposing the construction project.

Question 2, how did he know to be there to observe? Because it is obvious that he knew in advance that there was going to be trouble. As an officer of the court is he not obligated to report that there is going to be trouble to the authorities.

And, three, if he was only observing why are their reports that they have video of him throwing a molotov cocktail.
I agree with your last sentence. So, why have thos... (show quote)


I am quite sure that had there been a video it surely would have been presented to the public.

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Mar 8, 2023 16:14:50   #
btbg
 
letmedance wrote:
I am quite sure that had there been a video it surely would have been presented to the public.


There is video. I have seen some of it. What I have seen is inconclusive regarding whether the attorney actually threw a molotov cocktail, but there is definitely video.

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Mar 8, 2023 17:11:32   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
LoL


"I don't know that it backs up what I said but there is some sort of inconclusive video!"

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Mar 8, 2023 17:41:32   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
National Park wrote:
It appears that it remains to be seen whether the Southern Poverty Law Center attorney who was arrested was himself participating in terrorism activities. Unlike the others who were arrested who were all dressed all in black, he was wearing a bright green shirt and a yellow hat with National Lawyers Guild written on it to show he was a legal observer. Although the prosecutor correctly said that just because you are a lawyer it doesn't mean you aren't a terrorist, the prosecutor appeared to have doubts about the case because he consented to a bond which the judge then set at $5000. So it remains to be seen whether the attorney participated in terrorist activities or was a legal observer. That will be determined as his case winds its way through the legal system. In any event, if he engaged in terrorism he should be prosecuted regardless of who he works for. Also, if he engaged in terrorism activities it doesn't mean his employer, the Southern Poverty Law Center, is a terrorist organization unless it can be shown that the Center encouraged his terrorist behavior.

Like I said, both left wing extremists and right wing extremists should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Neither should be normalized by the body politic either directly or through code words. Both sides are "real terrorists." Both sides pose a threat to our nation.
It appears that it remains to be seen whether the ... (show quote)



SPLC is very selective as to who they identify as terrorists and h**e groups. They have and will defend A****a:
https://www.splcenter.org/h**ewatch/2020/06/02/designating-a****a-domestic-terrorist-organization-dangerous-threatens-civil-liberties

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Mar 8, 2023 18:57:57   #
btbg
 
btbg wrote:
There is video. I have seen some of it. What I have seen is inconclusive regarding whether the attorney actually threw a molotov cocktail, but there is definitely video.


Laugh if you want. I have not seen all the video. I have seen the lawyer with what appears to be a molotov cocktail, but the video I have seen is not enough to be conclusive. There is more video, if it were all shown we would know.

I was merely responding to someone who said if there was video we would have seen it. The 1*6 video proves that is not true. We saw a few minutes of 40,000 plus minutes of video. The feds are making a habit of withholding evidence and in some cases even classifying it so that the people on the video can't use it in their own defense.

The fact that I have only seen a 20 second clip out of an hour or more of video is why the response was what it was. We know the lawyer was there. We know his activities were suspicious. We know there is video. We just don't know exactly what it says yet. No contradiction in anything I said.

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Mar 8, 2023 18:59:19   #
btbg
 
Effate wrote:
SPLC is very selective as to who they identify as terrorists and h**e groups. They have and will defend A****a:
https://www.splcenter.org/h**ewatch/2020/06/02/designating-a****a-domestic-terrorist-organization-dangerous-threatens-civil-liberties


That was part of the point I was attempting to make. They are very selective with groups from the left, not so selective with groups from the right. I personally could care less about their evaluation of who is or is not a terrorist except that unfortunately the federal government is taking advice from them regarding terrorism and that should concern everyone.

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