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Mar 4, 2023 16:20:55   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
https://www.salon.com/2023/03/03/jon-stewart-expertly-corners-pro-republican-you-dont-give-a-flying-fk-about-children-dying/

"You don't want anything that could help law enforcement or society determine whether or not a person is a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun," Stewart said.

"The registry would allow you to have much more effective background checks," Stewart continued. "I don't understand why you won't just admit that you are making it harder for police to manage the streets by allowing all of these guns to go out without permits, without checks, and without background stuff? Why can't you just stand by that?"

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Mar 4, 2023 18:54:56   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Texcaster wrote:
https://www.salon.com/2023/03/03/jon-stewart-expertly-corners-pro-republican-you-dont-give-a-flying-fk-about-children-dying/

"You don't want anything that could help law enforcement or society determine whether or not a person is a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun," Stewart said.

"The registry would allow you to have much more effective background checks," Stewart continued. "I don't understand why you won't just admit that you are making it harder for police to manage the streets by allowing all of these guns to go out without permits, without checks, and without background stuff? Why can't you just stand by that?"
https://www.salon.com/2023/03/03/jon-stewart-exper... (show quote)



An obviously stupid socialist-liberal comment. “All those guns go out” with background checks, serial number checks, identity checks and a completed ATF Form 4473 — which must be filled out in its entirety, t***hfully, and certified by applicants signature.
“Form 4473 contains the purchaser's name, address, date of birth, government-issued photo ID, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check t***saction number, and a short affidavit stating that the purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. It also contains the make, model, or serial numbering the firearm. Lying on the form is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison[2] in addition to fines, even if the t***saction is denied by the NICS.“ [Wikipedia]

From ATF Form 4473:
§ 21. Answer the following questions by checking or marking either the “yes” or “no” box to the right of the questions:

a. Are you the actual t***sferee/buyer of all of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)?
Warning: You are not the actual t***sferee/buyer if you are acquiring any of the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual t***sferee/buyer, the licensee cannot t***sfer any of the firearm(s) to you. Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b.

b. Do you intend to purchase or acquire any firearm listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s), or ammunition, for sale or other disposition to any person described in questions 21(c)-(m), or to a person described in question 21.n.1 who does not fall within a nonimmigrant alien exception?

c. Do you intend to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) or ammunition in furtherance of any felony or other offense punishable by imprisonment for a term of more than one year, a Federal crime of terrorism, or a drug trafficking offense?

d. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial?

e. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?

f. Are you a fugitive from justice?

g. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

h. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?

i. Have you ever been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions?

j. Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from
harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner?

k. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of
the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions?

l. Have you ever renounced your United States citizenship?

m. Are you an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States?

21.n.1. Are you an alien who has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa?
21.n.2. If you are such an alien do you fall within any of the exceptions stated in the instructions? (U.S. citizens/nationals leave 21.n.l and 21.n.2 blank)

I certify that my answers in Section B are true, correct, and complete. I have read and understand the Notices, Instructions, and Definitions on ATF Form 4473.
I understand that answering “yes” to question 21.a. if I am not the actual t***sferee/buyer is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal law,and may also violate State and/or local law.
I understand that a person who answers “yes” to any of the questions 21.b. through 21.m. is prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm.
I understand that a person who answers “yes” to question 21.n.1. is prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm, unless the person answers “yes” to question 21.n.2. and provides the documentation required in 26.d.
I also understand that making any false oral or written statement, or exhibiting any false or misrepresented identification with respect to this t***saction, is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal law, and may also violate State and/or local law.
I further understand that the repetitive purchase of firearms for the purpose of resale to predominantly earn a profit without a Federal firearms license is a violation of Federal law.”

These questions must be answered correctly, reviewed by the seller or t***sferor, and signed by the person acquiring a firearm.
Additionally, a background check must be performed prior to completion of purchase/t***sfer.

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Mar 5, 2023 04:19:59   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Wyantry wrote:
An obviously stupid socialist-liberal comment. “All those guns go out” with background checks, serial number checks, identity checks and a completed ATF Form 4473 — which must be filled out in its entirety, t***hfully, and certified by applicants signature.
“Form 4473 contains the purchaser's name, address, date of birth, government-issued photo ID, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check t***saction number, and a short affidavit stating that the purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. It also contains the make, model, or serial numbering the firearm. Lying on the form is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison[2] in addition to fines, even if the t***saction is denied by the NICS.“ [Wikipedia]

From ATF Form 4473:
§ 21. Answer the following questions by checking or marking either the “yes” or “no” box to the right of the questions:

a. Are you the actual t***sferee/buyer of all of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)?
Warning: You are not the actual t***sferee/buyer if you are acquiring any of the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual t***sferee/buyer, the licensee cannot t***sfer any of the firearm(s) to you. Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b.

b. Do you intend to purchase or acquire any firearm listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s), or ammunition, for sale or other disposition to any person described in questions 21(c)-(m), or to a person described in question 21.n.1 who does not fall within a nonimmigrant alien exception?

c. Do you intend to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) or ammunition in furtherance of any felony or other offense punishable by imprisonment for a term of more than one year, a Federal crime of terrorism, or a drug trafficking offense?

d. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial?

e. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?

f. Are you a fugitive from justice?

g. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

h. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?

i. Have you ever been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions?

j. Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from
harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner?

k. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of
the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions?

l. Have you ever renounced your United States citizenship?

m. Are you an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States?

21.n.1. Are you an alien who has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa?
21.n.2. If you are such an alien do you fall within any of the exceptions stated in the instructions? (U.S. citizens/nationals leave 21.n.l and 21.n.2 blank)

I certify that my answers in Section B are true, correct, and complete. I have read and understand the Notices, Instructions, and Definitions on ATF Form 4473.
I understand that answering “yes” to question 21.a. if I am not the actual t***sferee/buyer is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal law,and may also violate State and/or local law.
I understand that a person who answers “yes” to any of the questions 21.b. through 21.m. is prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm.
I understand that a person who answers “yes” to question 21.n.1. is prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm, unless the person answers “yes” to question 21.n.2. and provides the documentation required in 26.d.
I also understand that making any false oral or written statement, or exhibiting any false or misrepresented identification with respect to this t***saction, is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal law, and may also violate State and/or local law.
I further understand that the repetitive purchase of firearms for the purpose of resale to predominantly earn a profit without a Federal firearms license is a violation of Federal law.”

These questions must be answered correctly, reviewed by the seller or t***sferor, and signed by the person acquiring a firearm.
Additionally, a background check must be performed prior to completion of purchase/t***sfer.
b An obviously stupid socialist-liberal comment. ... (show quote)


" ... State Sen. Nathan Dahm (R-OK) has penned several bills loosening gun restrictions, including the nation’s first anti-red f**g law. He thinks these bills protect the Second Amendment – and that they make us safer. We think it's probably one or the other. Watch it on @AppleTVPlus. ... "

https://www.salon.com/2023/03/03/jon-stewart-expertly-corners-pro-republican-you-dont-give-a-flying-fk-about-children-dying/

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Mar 5, 2023 07:47:09   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
Texcaster wrote:
https://www.salon.com/2023/03/03/jon-stewart-expertly-corners-pro-republican-you-dont-give-a-flying-fk-about-children-dying/

"You don't want anything that could help law enforcement or society determine whether or not a person is a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun," Stewart said.

"The registry would allow you to have much more effective background checks," Stewart continued. "I don't understand why you won't just admit that you are making it harder for police to manage the streets by allowing all of these guns to go out without permits, without checks, and without background stuff? Why can't you just stand by that?"
https://www.salon.com/2023/03/03/jon-stewart-exper... (show quote)


Most of the gun deaths in America are due to suicide. You're a freakin Lib for Christ's sake!!!! Yet you don't believe a person has the right to chose their own death, or more accurately, the means to their own death?????

I mean, if you, or that clown Jon Stewart, were actually concerned about children dying, you'd be screaming at the current admin to do something to stop the current F******l scourge which is k*****g far more people than guns are.

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Mar 5, 2023 08:59:00   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
WNYShooter wrote:
Most of the gun deaths in America are due to suicide. You're a freakin Lib for Christ's sake!!!! Yet you don't believe a person has the right to chose their own death, or more accurately, the means to their own death?????

I mean, if you, or that clown Jon Stewart, were actually concerned about children dying, you'd be screaming at the current admin to do something to stop the current F******l scourge which is k*****g far more people than guns are.



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Mar 5, 2023 09:54:07   #
Rose42
 
I generally like Jon Stewart but the ‘you don’t care about children’ argument is pretty inane

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Mar 5, 2023 10:26:12   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Rose42 wrote:
I generally like Jon Stewart but the ‘you don’t care about children’ argument is pretty inane


i generally cant stand the i***t

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Mar 5, 2023 10:29:44   #
Triple G
 
wilpharm wrote:
i generally cant stand the i***t


Ron White more to your liking?

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Mar 5, 2023 10:43:41   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
WNYShooter wrote:
Most of the gun deaths in America are due to suicide. You're a freakin Lib for Christ's sake!!!! Yet you don't believe a person has the right to chose their own death, or more accurately, the means to their own death?????

I mean, if you, or that clown Jon Stewart, were actually concerned about children dying, you'd be screaming at the current admin to do something to stop the current F******l scourge which is k*****g far more people than guns are.





The F******l / Opioid problem deserves far more attention than guns right now!.

It is obvious the liberal socialist-democrat anti-gunners have only a one-trick-pony mindset: emphasizing their “ban gun” agenda at the expense of the lives of children being decimated by illegally imported drugs.

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Mar 5, 2023 10:58:27   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Triple G wrote:
Ron White more to your liking?


at least white is entertaining sometimes...glad you like Stewart..says a lot about you..I bet AOC is on your list too..and I bet you really get off with Fetterman..

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Mar 5, 2023 11:35:33   #
Triple G
 
wilpharm wrote:
at least white is entertaining sometimes...glad you like Stewart..says a lot about you..I bet AOC is on your list too..and I bet you really get off with Fetterman..


You’re so charming! Not!

When you get over LB and MTG and Santos and the like, you’ll come to the conclusion that there are all kinds of people and some of them just aren’t for you and that’s okay!

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Mar 5, 2023 12:30:22   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Texcaster wrote:
" ... State Sen. Nathan Dahm (R-OK) has penned several bills loosening gun restrictions, including the nation’s first anti-red f**g law. He thinks these bills protect the Second Amendment – and that they make us safer. We think it's probably one or the other. Watch it on @AppleTVPlus. ... "

https://www.salon.com/2023/03/03/jon-stewart-expertly-corners-pro-republican-you-dont-give-a-flying-fk-about-children-dying/


Oklahoma’s State Senator Dahm is not the only person who views the passing of Extreme Risk Protective Order (ERPO) or (“red f**g laws”) as being potentially unconstitutional.

Red f**g laws as enumerated in several states are potential attacks upon basic freedoms and privileges guaranteed — up until now — by the Constitution.
A major problem with these new laws is the forced removal of private property based solely upon unsupported evidence, innuendo, dislike, vengefulness, or disagreement,
Without evidence.
Without defense,
Without trial,
Without the ability of the ‘accused’ to present any defense,
Without the ability to face accusers.

Constitutionally guaranteed privileges (those government(s) MAY NOT TAKE AWAY include:


—1st Amendment guarantees all Americans the right to freedom of speech and assembly, without persecution by law enforcement or other citizens.

—2d Amendment is the guaranteed right to keep and bear arms.

—4th Amendment prevents unlawful search and seizure of private property, (which ‘red f**g’ laws violate because the laws allow police to act without judicial procedures).

—5th Amendment, orders that a grand jury must issue indictments for serious crimes; guarantees due process of law; and prevents seizure of private property without compensation (All of which ‘red f**g’ laws violate).

—6th Amendment guarantees each citizen the right of a trial. (There is no trial under ‘red f**g’ laws, a random complaint without justification nor proof could cause police to act without a trial). Individuals also must be informed of any charges against them. (‘Red f**g’ laws preclude citizens from contacting a lawyer for their defense before any action is taken by law enforcement).

—7th Amendment guarantees US citizens the right to a jury trial, (which ‘red f**g’ laws clearly violate).

—8th Amendment protects citizens from excessive fines. (Confiscation of expensive firearms, even historical firearms manufactured before 1898, could be considered excessive fines because those firearms may never be returned. Some might even be destroyed “to keep them off the streets.”).

—9th Amendment insures the right of private property. (Which should require no explanation).
[https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/86R/handouts/C3852020081300001/b8162608-2086-45fa-862d-c8c6accfeb50.PDF]

And the freedoms guaranteed against individual STATES abridgment of laws under the “due process” clause of the Fourteenth Amendment:

—14th Amendment insures “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law . . .”

Examples of voiced concerns about the constitutionality of ERPO legislation include:

https://13wham.com/news/local/state-supreme-court-judge-in-rochester-rules-nys-red-f**g-law-unconstitutional-thomas-moran-dan-strollo-erpo-payton-gendron-buffalo-tops-shooting

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2019/09/04/red-f**g-laws-spur-debate-over-due-process

https://michigangunlaw.com/faq/are-red-f**g-laws-constitutional/

An example of the requisite paperwork is from California: https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/gv100.pdf

Although the Second Amendment continues to draw much of the attention, the more substantive and pressing concern is whether ERPOs violate gun owners’ due process rights.

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Mar 5, 2023 15:08:14   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Wyantry wrote:
Oklahoma’s State Senator Dahm is not the only person who views the passing of Extreme Risk Protective Order (ERPO) or (“red f**g laws”) as being potentially unconstitutional.

Red f**g laws as enumerated in several states are potential attacks upon basic freedoms and privileges guaranteed — up until now — by the Constitution.
A major problem with these new laws is the forced removal of private property based solely upon unsupported evidence, innuendo, dislike, vengefulness, or disagreement,
Without evidence.
Without defense,
Without trial,
Without the ability of the ‘accused’ to present any defense,
Without the ability to face accusers.

Constitutionally guaranteed privileges (those government(s) MAY NOT TAKE AWAY include:


—1st Amendment guarantees all Americans the right to freedom of speech and assembly, without persecution by law enforcement or other citizens.

—2d Amendment is the guaranteed right to keep and bear arms.

—4th Amendment prevents unlawful search and seizure of private property, (which ‘red f**g’ laws violate because the laws allow police to act without judicial procedures).

—5th Amendment, orders that a grand jury must issue indictments for serious crimes; guarantees due process of law; and prevents seizure of private property without compensation (All of which ‘red f**g’ laws violate).

—6th Amendment guarantees each citizen the right of a trial. (There is no trial under ‘red f**g’ laws, a random complaint without justification nor proof could cause police to act without a trial). Individuals also must be informed of any charges against them. (‘Red f**g’ laws preclude citizens from contacting a lawyer for their defense before any action is taken by law enforcement).

—7th Amendment guarantees US citizens the right to a jury trial, (which ‘red f**g’ laws clearly violate).

—8th Amendment protects citizens from excessive fines. (Confiscation of expensive firearms, even historical firearms manufactured before 1898, could be considered excessive fines because those firearms may never be returned. Some might even be destroyed “to keep them off the streets.”).

—9th Amendment insures the right of private property. (Which should require no explanation).
[https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/86R/handouts/C3852020081300001/b8162608-2086-45fa-862d-c8c6accfeb50.PDF]

And the freedoms guaranteed against individual STATES abridgment of laws under the “due process” clause of the Fourteenth Amendment:

—14th Amendment insures “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law . . .”

Examples of voiced concerns about the constitutionality of ERPO legislation include:

https://13wham.com/news/local/state-supreme-court-judge-in-rochester-rules-nys-red-f**g-law-unconstitutional-thomas-moran-dan-strollo-erpo-payton-gendron-buffalo-tops-shooting

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2019/09/04/red-f**g-laws-spur-debate-over-due-process

https://michigangunlaw.com/faq/are-red-f**g-laws-constitutional/

An example of the requisite paperwork is from California: https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/gv100.pdf

Although the Second Amendment continues to draw much of the attention, the more substantive and pressing concern is whether ERPOs violate gun owners’ due process rights.
b Oklahoma’s State Senator Dahm is not the only p... (show quote)


Attempted c**ps are also unconstitutional ... not much yammering from your side and Fox about that constitutional outrage.

So far this year, more than 7,000 people have died in gun-related incidents, and there have been 94 mass shootings in the U.S., according to the Gun Violence Archive. This dingbat (in a cynical Fox-like grab for brain dead supporters) wants to weaken laws already on the books. When will there be enough guns in circulation for a truly safe society?

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Mar 5, 2023 15:09:48   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
WNYShooter wrote:
Most of the gun deaths in America are due to suicide. You're a freakin Lib for Christ's sake!!!! Yet you don't believe a person has the right to chose their own death, or more accurately, the means to their own death?????

I mean, if you, or that clown Jon Stewart, were actually concerned about children dying, you'd be screaming at the current admin to do something to stop the current F******l scourge which is k*****g far more people than guns are.


Your outrage is always most impressive when directed at the Ukrainians fighting the Hun invasion.

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Mar 5, 2023 17:38:13   #
Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US
 
Triple G wrote:
Ron White more to your liking?


And God Bless you hypocritical b*****ds!

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1742978/kathy-griffin-decapitated-trump-head-e******n/

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