I Never Truly Understood Fox News Until Now.
Feb 19, 2023 14:04:26 #
How fox's ... 'lie to 'em as a business model' ... bit them on the bum then they told the e******n t***h. They're well and truly owned by their, 30 years in the making ... MAGAcreature.
New court filings reveal what the network’s leaders really think of its viewers.
edited, full story at - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/fox-news-d******n-v****g-lawsuit-2020-e******n-conspiracy/673111/
The basic story of Fox News and the 2020 e******n is well understood. Fox’s relatively small news operation covered the v**e count accurately; this coverage infuriated President Donald Trump, the MAGA base, and Fox’s opinion stars; some viewers temporarily flipped to further-right outlets, such as Newsmax; and Fox panicked.
But thanks to D******n V****g Systems, which is pursuing a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox, we now know that the network’s sense of crisis was even more intense than it appeared from outside. With the case careening toward trial, a court filing yesterday revealed some of what D******n found during the discovery
process, including eye-popping messages from Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Fox’s senior management. “Getting creamed by CNN!” Fox’s owner, Rupert Murdoch, wrote to its top executive after seeing the overnight ratings on November 8. “Guess our viewers don’t want to watch it.”
He was right. Some of Fox’s top shows began broadcasting a better story, one that its viewers did want to watch: a conspiracy-laden tale about crooked Democrats stealing an e******n. D******n is arguing that Fox knew full well that Trumpworld’s v**er-fraud allegations were bunk but promoted the lies anyway. Whether or not D******n prevails in court, and many experts believe it will, the lawsuit is already forcing an ethical reckoning over Fox’s disrespect of its audience. Hour after hour, day after day, Fox stars kept signaling to viewers that Trump might still win the e******n not because they thought he would, but because they were worried about their ratings. And we all witnessed the consequences on J****** 6.
The Fox News correspondent Jacqui Heinrich saw Trump’s e******n-denying post and had the audacity to tweet the t***h. She wrote that “top e******n infrastructure officials”—including some in Trump’s administration—had issued a statement saying “there is no evidence that any v****g system deleted or lost v**es, changed v**es, or was in any way c*********d.”
The three hosts—Hannity, Carlson, and Laura Ingraham—were in a text chain together, where they had been commiserating about the madness of the poste******n period. Carlson f**gged Heinrich’s tweet and told Hannity, “Please get her fired.” Why? Because her minor Twitter fact-check of an out-of-control president was exactly the sort of thing that Fox’s fan base could not stand to see.
“It needs to stop immediately, like tonight,” Carlson wrote. “It’s measurably hurting the company. The stock price is down. Not a joke.”
Hannity replied and said he had already sent the accurate and thus offending tweet to Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott.
“Sean texted me,” Scott wrote to two colleagues. Apparently, Hannity had threatened to tweet back at Heinrich. “He’s standing down on responding,” Scott wrote, “but not happy about this and doesn’t understand how this is allowed to happen from anyone in news.” Scott was bothered too. She worried that reporters at other outlets would notice Heinrich’s tweet: “She has serious nerve doing this and if this gets picked up, viewers are going to be further disgusted.”
Disgusted by what? By a reporter fact-checking Trump’s fictions.
This extreme tension between the newsroom and the much larger opinion operation came up in almost every interview I conducted for H**x, my book about the disturbing relationship between Fox and Trump.
The former producer said he sensed himself being brainwashed while consuming all of the right-wing content from the Fox & Friends hosts and guests. He felt himself t***sforming into one of the millions of Fox addicts across America. “People don’t care if it’s right; they just want their side to win. That’s who this show is for,” he said. “It’s sad.”
It may be sad, but it is also enormously lucrative. Other sources at Fox told me to think of it not as a network per se, but as a profit machine. They feared doing anything that would disrupt the machine. “I feel like Fox is being held hostage by its audience,” a veteran staffer told me, perhaps justifying his own participation by portraying himself as a victim.
When I printed these confessions in H**x, I wrote that everyone at Fox was “profoundly afraid of losing the audience and the resulting piles of cash.” I cited the former morning-show producer, who told me, “We were deathly afraid of our audience leaving, deathly afraid of pissing them off.”
Not long after the e******n and the i**********n, I went back to sources at Fox to hear about the aftermath, gathering mere scraps in comparison to D******n’s discovery-aided buffet. Sources told me that the pressure from the audience was debilitating in the poste******n period. A senior staffer at Fox railed against the network’s journalists and math wizards who had called Arizona for Biden, calling them “arrogant fucks” who “are rubbing it in our viewers’ faces.”
Rubbing what? “Biden. They're rubbing Biden in our faces.”
I never fully understood that objection until I read the new D******n filing. Somewhere around page 157, it clicked. Inside Fox, the prime-time stars and senior executives raged against the network’s reporters not because they doubted that Biden had won, but because the t***h was too disturbing to the audience that had made them rich. Fox’s poste******n strategy, the texts and emails suggest, was to stop rubbing Biden in its viewers’ faces. But in their effort to show their viewers “respect,” they ultimately disrespected both their audience and the American experiment they claim to protect.
New court filings reveal what the network’s leaders really think of its viewers.
edited, full story at - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/fox-news-d******n-v****g-lawsuit-2020-e******n-conspiracy/673111/
The basic story of Fox News and the 2020 e******n is well understood. Fox’s relatively small news operation covered the v**e count accurately; this coverage infuriated President Donald Trump, the MAGA base, and Fox’s opinion stars; some viewers temporarily flipped to further-right outlets, such as Newsmax; and Fox panicked.
But thanks to D******n V****g Systems, which is pursuing a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox, we now know that the network’s sense of crisis was even more intense than it appeared from outside. With the case careening toward trial, a court filing yesterday revealed some of what D******n found during the discovery
process, including eye-popping messages from Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Fox’s senior management. “Getting creamed by CNN!” Fox’s owner, Rupert Murdoch, wrote to its top executive after seeing the overnight ratings on November 8. “Guess our viewers don’t want to watch it.”
He was right. Some of Fox’s top shows began broadcasting a better story, one that its viewers did want to watch: a conspiracy-laden tale about crooked Democrats stealing an e******n. D******n is arguing that Fox knew full well that Trumpworld’s v**er-fraud allegations were bunk but promoted the lies anyway. Whether or not D******n prevails in court, and many experts believe it will, the lawsuit is already forcing an ethical reckoning over Fox’s disrespect of its audience. Hour after hour, day after day, Fox stars kept signaling to viewers that Trump might still win the e******n not because they thought he would, but because they were worried about their ratings. And we all witnessed the consequences on J****** 6.
The Fox News correspondent Jacqui Heinrich saw Trump’s e******n-denying post and had the audacity to tweet the t***h. She wrote that “top e******n infrastructure officials”—including some in Trump’s administration—had issued a statement saying “there is no evidence that any v****g system deleted or lost v**es, changed v**es, or was in any way c*********d.”
The three hosts—Hannity, Carlson, and Laura Ingraham—were in a text chain together, where they had been commiserating about the madness of the poste******n period. Carlson f**gged Heinrich’s tweet and told Hannity, “Please get her fired.” Why? Because her minor Twitter fact-check of an out-of-control president was exactly the sort of thing that Fox’s fan base could not stand to see.
“It needs to stop immediately, like tonight,” Carlson wrote. “It’s measurably hurting the company. The stock price is down. Not a joke.”
Hannity replied and said he had already sent the accurate and thus offending tweet to Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott.
“Sean texted me,” Scott wrote to two colleagues. Apparently, Hannity had threatened to tweet back at Heinrich. “He’s standing down on responding,” Scott wrote, “but not happy about this and doesn’t understand how this is allowed to happen from anyone in news.” Scott was bothered too. She worried that reporters at other outlets would notice Heinrich’s tweet: “She has serious nerve doing this and if this gets picked up, viewers are going to be further disgusted.”
Disgusted by what? By a reporter fact-checking Trump’s fictions.
This extreme tension between the newsroom and the much larger opinion operation came up in almost every interview I conducted for H**x, my book about the disturbing relationship between Fox and Trump.
The former producer said he sensed himself being brainwashed while consuming all of the right-wing content from the Fox & Friends hosts and guests. He felt himself t***sforming into one of the millions of Fox addicts across America. “People don’t care if it’s right; they just want their side to win. That’s who this show is for,” he said. “It’s sad.”
It may be sad, but it is also enormously lucrative. Other sources at Fox told me to think of it not as a network per se, but as a profit machine. They feared doing anything that would disrupt the machine. “I feel like Fox is being held hostage by its audience,” a veteran staffer told me, perhaps justifying his own participation by portraying himself as a victim.
When I printed these confessions in H**x, I wrote that everyone at Fox was “profoundly afraid of losing the audience and the resulting piles of cash.” I cited the former morning-show producer, who told me, “We were deathly afraid of our audience leaving, deathly afraid of pissing them off.”
Not long after the e******n and the i**********n, I went back to sources at Fox to hear about the aftermath, gathering mere scraps in comparison to D******n’s discovery-aided buffet. Sources told me that the pressure from the audience was debilitating in the poste******n period. A senior staffer at Fox railed against the network’s journalists and math wizards who had called Arizona for Biden, calling them “arrogant fucks” who “are rubbing it in our viewers’ faces.”
Rubbing what? “Biden. They're rubbing Biden in our faces.”
I never fully understood that objection until I read the new D******n filing. Somewhere around page 157, it clicked. Inside Fox, the prime-time stars and senior executives raged against the network’s reporters not because they doubted that Biden had won, but because the t***h was too disturbing to the audience that had made them rich. Fox’s poste******n strategy, the texts and emails suggest, was to stop rubbing Biden in its viewers’ faces. But in their effort to show their viewers “respect,” they ultimately disrespected both their audience and the American experiment they claim to protect.
Feb 19, 2023 14:29:45 #
Feb 19, 2023 14:36:34 #
Texcaster wrote:
How fox's ... 'lie to 'em as a business model' ...... (show quote)
As usual you are full of crap!You better read my latest post D******n has screwed themselves with the lawsuit against Fox!
Feb 19, 2023 15:04:46 #
bcheary wrote:
As usual you are full of crap!You better read my latest post D******n has screwed themselves with the lawsuit against Fox!
lol ... have an aspirin and a lie down.
This thread is about Fox's 'creature' owning them. I doubt the goldenpundit.com's story will save Fox. Even the most rusted on denier can't escape seeing their heroes exposed as a pack of cynical liars now.
Feb 19, 2023 17:13:39 #
Feb 20, 2023 09:36:16 #
Let's see who's laughing about this when D******n sues themselves into bankruptcy and the bidetophiles slink back into their holes.
Feb 20, 2023 09:53:45 #
Feb 20, 2023 10:03:27 #
FrumCA wrote:
Let's see who's laughing about this when D******n sues themselves into bankruptcy and the bidetophiles slink back into their holes.
Not gonna happen!
The vitriolic hyperbolic comments on and off air have put Fox in a vicarious position. Maybe toning that down will mean the rest of the MAGA nuts will do so also.
Feb 20, 2023 11:01:02 #
Triple G wrote:
Not gonna happen!
The vitriolic hyperbolic comments on and off air have put Fox in a vicarious position. Maybe toning that down will mean the rest of the MAGA nuts will do so also.
The vitriolic hyperbolic comments on and off air have put Fox in a vicarious position. Maybe toning that down will mean the rest of the MAGA nuts will do so also.
The FCC should pull their licenses for 36 months. All involved parties should be forbidden from broadcasting for 36 months keeping them off air for the next e******n cycle.
Feb 20, 2023 12:20:49 #
RixPix wrote:
The FCC should pull their licenses for 36 months. All involved parties should be forbidden from broadcasting for 36 months keeping them off air for the next e******n cycle.
With all the hyperbole and outright lies from the alternative MSN such as CNN and MSNBC (there are others) the FCC should pull their licenses as well. Wouldn't that be a fair move???
Feb 20, 2023 15:50:39 #
FrumCA wrote:
With all the hyperbole and outright lies from the alternative MSN such as CNN and MSNBC (there are others) the FCC should pull their licenses as well. Wouldn't that be a fair move???
You miss/ignore Fox's cynicism and their contempt for their viewers and the US ... writ large ... in high relief ... in their own words.
Fox news in the US ? How long? Almost 30 years and they made a whole lot of people permanently, a******lly angry. Fox's business plan of worry, fear and hype is it's own topic of study.
Feb 20, 2023 16:04:33 #
Texcaster wrote:
You miss/ignore Fox's cynicism and their contempt for their viewers and the US ... writ large ... in high relief.
Fox news in the US ? How long? Only 30 years and they made a whole lot of people permanently a******lly angry.
Fox news in the US ? How long? Only 30 years and they made a whole lot of people permanently a******lly angry.
I miss nothing of a sort. I'm more concerned about the hyperbole and opinions emanating from the alternative MSM I mentioned; hyperbole and unfounded opinions about news events that make Fox News the most watched cable news service. Evidently you will continue to ignore that factoid to try to make your point.
Feb 20, 2023 16:07:14 #
FrumCA wrote:
I miss nothing of a sort. I'm more concerned about the hyperbole and opinions emanating from the alternative MSM I mentioned; hyperbole and unfounded opinions about news events that make Fox News the most watched cable news service. Evidently you will continue to ignore that factoid to try to make your point.
They! Got! Busted!
Feb 20, 2023 16:14:25 #
Feb 20, 2023 16:49:47 #
FrumCA wrote:
Dream on. Have a great time.
Was there massive organized v***r f***d in 2020? Is Mr Bugalugs really POTUS? Was J** 6 an assault on the ... 'will of the people'?
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