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Feb 18, 2023 17:36:49   #
sueb4653 Loc: Pueblo West Colorado
 
Any advise for shooting in low light ? It seems to be my Achilles heel

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Feb 18, 2023 17:45:37   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
sueb4653 wrote:
Any advise for shooting in low light ? It seems to be my Achilles heel


What have you tried already?

Does your camera have an onboard flash?
Do you have an external speedlight flash?
Have you tried 'wide open' for your lens, the widest aperture setting?
Have you tried shooting from a tripod?
Have you tried the longest possible shutter speed?
Have you raised the digital ISO on your camera?

Have you created a few JPEG examples and considered storing the original unedited files as attachments?



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Feb 18, 2023 17:48:53   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
sueb4653 wrote:
Any advise for shooting in low light ? It seems to be my Achilles heel


Give examples of what you mean by shooting in low light, indoors, outdoors, hand-held, using a tripod, specific circumstances such as people, concerts, landscapes, the moon etc., and post a picture or two showing what you consider to be the problem. Make sure you store the originals in any pictures posted so they can be downloaded and examined closely.

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Feb 18, 2023 17:58:01   #
sueb4653 Loc: Pueblo West Colorado
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
What have you tried already?

Does your camera have an onboard flash?
Do you have an external speedlight flash?
Have you tried 'wide open' for your lens, the widest aperture setting?
Have you tried shooting from a tripod?
Have you tried the longest possible shutter speed?
Have you raised the digital ISO on your camera?

Have you created a few JPEG examples and considered storing the original unedited files as attachments?


No to the flashes as it is outside
The lens im using was wide open at f5.6 plus ev +3
No havent tried tripod
Shooting flying eagles so speed was about 1650
Iso is on auto

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Feb 18, 2023 18:08:34   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
sueb4653 wrote:
No to the flashes as it is outside
The lens im using was wide open at f5.6 plus ev +3
No havent tried tripod
Shooting flying eagles so speed was about 1650
Iso is on auto


Some relevant examples will help generate actionable feedback / suggestions based on the light of your shooting situation and the actual equipment. I'm unsure of +3EV. If you were shooting in a semi-auto mode (P, S, A), you could set the Exposure Compensation (EC) to a positive value, causing the camera to increase the ISO and / or adjust the aperture or shutterspeed, depending on the applicable exposure mode and the use of AUTO-ISO.

From an example image, we'd see the ISO selected by the camera, as well as which camera.

One idea many use is shooting in RAW and processing the noise later on their computer. Another idea is to 'expose to right' where they (a) use the widest aperture possible for the situation, and / or (b) the slowest shutter speed possible for the situation, and / or (c) the highest ISO needed to 'brighten' the image in the camera after letting more light hit the sensor via wider apertures and slower shutters.

Finally, wild-life shooters seek positions with the sun directly behind them / their camera where the animal / bird-in-flight is approaching the camera head-on. This provides the best possible natural lighting of the subjects.

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Feb 18, 2023 18:18:20   #
sueb4653 Loc: Pueblo West Colorado
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Some relevant examples will help generate actionable feedback / suggestions based on the light of your shooting situation and the actual equipment. I'm unsure of +3EV. If you were shooting in a semi-auto mode (P, S, A), you could set the Exposure Compensation (EC) to a positive value, causing the camera to increase the ISO and / or adjust the aperture or shutterspeed, depending on the applicable exposure mode and the use of AUTO-ISO.

From an example image, we'd see the ISO selected by the camera, as well as which camera.

One idea many use is shooting in RAW and processing the noise later on their computer. Another idea is to 'expose to right' where they (a) use the widest aperture possible for the situation, and / or (b) the slowest shutter speed possible for the situation, and / or (c) the highest ISO needed to 'brighten' the image in the camera after letting more light hit the sensor via wider apertures and slower shutters.

Finally, wild-life shooters seek positions with the sun directly behind them / their camera where the animal / bird-in-flight is approaching the camera head-on. This provides the best possible natural lighting of the subjects.
Some relevant examples will help generate actionab... (show quote)


Thanks

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Feb 18, 2023 19:03:20   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Sue, you have already shared an impressive body of work on UHH that most folks here would be quite proud of!

Both of the earlier respondents to your thread suggested you post examples of ones you feel have problems. If you would do this, we can all learn

Many thanks, and welcome to the forum!

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Feb 18, 2023 19:12:22   #
sueb4653 Loc: Pueblo West Colorado
 
therwol wrote:
Give examples of what you mean by shooting in low light, indoors, outdoors, hand-held, using a tripod, specific circumstances such as people, concerts, landscapes, the moon etc., and post a picture or two showing what you consider to be the problem. Make sure you store the originals in any pictures posted so they can be downloaded and examined closely.


Maybe tomorrow after i shoot the eagles again i have a habit of deleting lol if i dont like or there is a problem lol

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Feb 18, 2023 19:14:49   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
sueb4653 wrote:
Maybe tomorrow after i shoot the eagles again i have a habit of deleting lol if i dont like or there is a problem lol


I didn't think to check for posted work in the image gallery. The only difference for creating new examples to specifically discuss ISO is to (a) assure the image has the EXIF data intact and (b) storing the attachment so the example file(s) can be downloaded to review both EXIF and the image details.

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Feb 18, 2023 19:19:46   #
sueb4653 Loc: Pueblo West Colorado
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I didn't think to check for posted work in the image gallery. The only difference for creating new examples to specifically discuss ISO is to (a) assure the image has the EXIF data intact and (b) storing the attachment so the example file(s) can be downloaded to review both EXIF and the image details.


Ok

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Feb 18, 2023 20:19:34   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
sueb4653 wrote:
No to the flashes as it is outside
The lens im using was wide open at f5.6 plus ev +3
No havent tried tripod
Shooting flying eagles so speed was about 1650
Iso is on auto


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Obviously you are not yet grounded in the most basic principles of photograph. My advice is to first recognize the intensity of light in various conditions with an exposure meter---any old meter will do. Pick up an old Weston Master on eBay. (Ansel Adams used those)-----THEN THINK IN TERMS OF F: STOPS. Then everything is a trsade off. "shutter speed for your eagle---faster lens----higher ISO correction body---raw and post processing like one person mentioned." You don't need a course in photography. Just buy the equipment you need in the short trade off list I have posted. Don't bother with more--buy on eBay competent equipment is cheap. Photography is only as expensive as you wish to make it.------------ew

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Feb 18, 2023 23:23:25   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Sue, you have already shared an impressive body of work on UHH that most folks here would be quite proud of!

For those that are not aware of Sue's work I suggest you look here for a start.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-765911-1.html

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Feb 18, 2023 23:32:45   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
sueb4653 wrote:
Any advise for shooting in low light ? It seems to be my Achilles heel


I looked at your images. Looked particularly at those that appeared to be taken in situations where light was limited. They are fundamentally quite nice. Tell us how you got these. JPEGs or raw? I presume that they are from your Z7ii. If we know how you work, we can suggest adjustments to what you are doing rather than coming up with all sorts of new stuff to learn.

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Feb 19, 2023 07:33:27   #
sueb4653 Loc: Pueblo West Colorado
 
larryepage wrote:
I looked at your images. Looked particularly at those that appeared to be taken in situations where light was limited. They are fundamentally quite nice. Tell us how you got these. JPEGs or raw? I presume that they are from your Z7ii. If we know how you work, we can suggest adjustments to what you are doing rather than coming up with all sorts of new stuff to learn.


Ok i shoot Manual and i shoot RAW i use auto ISO for example the Eagles where f5.6 1/1650 matrix metering and i bumped the ev+3, I use LR for post processing and sometimes topaz noise for the noise.

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Feb 19, 2023 08:00:26   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Grahame wrote:
For those that are not aware of Sue's work I suggest you look here for a start.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-765911-1.html


Amazingly good work.

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