Manual Mode is Outdated: Was browsing YouTube the other day when I ran across a video by Scott Kelby and friend entitled "Why Shooting in Manual Mode is Outdated....". Has anyone else...

charles brown Loc: Tennesse

Was browsing YouTube the other day when I ran across a video by Scott Kelby and friend entitled "Why Shooting in Manual Mode is Outdated....". Has anyone else seen the video and, if so, what do you think of his point of view? Not sure I completely buy into everything he says, but he does raise some interesting thoughts.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I don't believe manual mode is "outdated". But, just like everyone else, he has an opinion.
Each mode has its beneficial uses. Many like one mode more than the others, for THEIR work.
Those that purport that any one particular mode "MUST BE USED" or one is not a true photographer are full of digested material.

BebuLamar

Longshadow wrote:

I don't believe manual mode is "outdated". But, just like everyone else, he has an opinion.
Each mode has its beneficial uses. Many like one mode more than the others, for THEIR work.
Those that purport that any one particular mode "MUST BE USED" or one is not a true photographer are full of digested material.

He has an onpion and an idea that he would have a lot of viewer if he makes a video saying so.

davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel

charles brown wrote:

Was browsing YouTube the other day when I ran across a video by Scott Kelby and friend entitled "Why Shooting in Manual Mode is Outdated....". Has anyone else seen the video and, if so, what do you think of his point of view? Not sure I completely buy into everything he says, but he does raise some interesting thoughts.

While Kelby is well known and a very good photographer his opinons change with the weather. At one time he was MR. NIKON and nothing else would do. Seems he has changed his mind, again. Recently he has become very adapt at that.

charles brown Loc: Tennesse

Longshadow wrote:

I don't believe manual mode is "outdated". But, just like everyone else, he has an opinion.
Each mode has its beneficial uses. Many like one mode more than the others, for THEIR work.
Those that purport that any one particular mode "MUST BE USED" or one is not a true photographer are full of digested material.

I agree. I think what is often forgotten is that for some it is the process of taking a photograph that is most enjoyable, not necessarily the end photograph. It is the journey, not the destination.

charles brown Loc: Tennesse

davidrb wrote:

While Kelby is well known and a very good photographer his opinons change with the weather. At one time he was MR. NIKON and nothing else would do. Seems he has changed his mind, again. Recently he has become very adapt at that.

Some might call that "survival mode"

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

BebuLamar wrote:

He has an onpion and an idea that he would have a lot of viewer if he makes a video saying so.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

For anyone with a modern camera that enables Exposure Compensation with AUTO ISO in Manual, these cameras and their photographers have the best of all modern digital technology. It's like the old (P)rofessional, except now the camera responds with an ISO change instead of an aperture or shutterspeed response. This makes Manual more relevant, not less.

luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC

If manual mode is outdated then I guess it's just another item to add to the list of things that I do or prefer that are outdated. Rarely do I use A, S, P, or auto.

Dodie

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

luvmypets wrote:

If manual mode is outdated then I guess it's just another item to add to the list of things that I do or prefer that are outdated. Rarely do I use A, S, P, or auto.

Dodie

Whatever works best for your style of shooting.
Amazing how that works, eh?

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

charles brown wrote:

Was browsing YouTube the other day when I ran across a video by Scott Kelby and friend entitled "Why Shooting in Manual Mode is Outdated....". Has anyone else seen the video and, if so, what do you think of his point of view? Not sure I completely buy into everything he says, but he does raise some interesting thoughts.

"Outdated" may be too strong a word. Try doing a night sky photograph in any other mode. Manual also works best when collecting images for a panorama.

On the other hand, there is a discussion running in parallel with this one in which the OP and a number of other members are discussing how they have discovered that Program mode is not nearly the robotic, camera-mandated mode that they thought. Turns out that they stopped, took a deep breath, and read and understood their camera instructions instead of being enslaved to the KoolAde lore rampant here. It's nothing new...I shot my D200 in "adjusted" Program mode from the time I bought it in 2006. And it was far from the first model that offered that functionality.

To me, the lesson is to spend the time and effort to learn and practice what our cameras can do, then choose the capabilities that make photography reliable, fun, and rewarding. If it can be a little easier, that's ok, too.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

larryepage wrote:

"Outdated" may be too strong a word. Try... (show quote)

flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT

CHG_CANON wrote:

For anyone with a modern camera that enables Exposure Compensation with AUTO ISO in Manual, these cameras and there photographers have the best of all modern digital technology. It's like the old (P)rofessional, except now the camera responds with an ISO change instead of an aperture or shutterspeed response. This makes Manual more relevant, not less.

Yeah but...the thing is that a large percentage of UHHers who claim to shoot Manual really don't as they also use auto ISO.

As you pointed out they are really shooting in a quasi-reverse Program mode.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

flip1948 wrote:

Yeah but...the thing is that a large percentage of UHHers who claim to shoot Manual really don't as they also use auto ISO.

As you pointed out they are really shooting in a quasi-reverse Program mode.

BBurns Loc: South Bay, California

CHG_CANON wrote:

For anyone with a modern camera that enables Exposure Compensation with AUTO ISO in Manual, these cameras and there photographers have the best of all modern digital technology. It's like the old (P)rofessional, except now the camera responds with an ISO change instead of an aperture or shutterspeed response. This makes Manual more relevant, not less.

Well said!