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The science is undeniable: Face masks do NOT stop c***d t***smission
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Feb 17, 2023 18:56:49   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
https://www.newstarget.com/2023-02-16-science-face-masks-dont-stop-c***d-t***smission.html

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Feb 17, 2023 19:05:10   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Tell that to Taiwan and Japan

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Feb 17, 2023 19:26:57   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
DennyT wrote:
Tell that to Taiwan and Japan


Go for it!

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Feb 17, 2023 21:22:32   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
bcheary wrote:
https://www.newstarget.com/2023-02-16-science-face-masks-dont-stop-c***d-t***smission.html

Undeniable?

Your source article ends with:

"The latest review will not conclusively answer the scientific questions around mask efficacy, but it should answer any lingering questions over the harm of censorship..."

That's hardly an "undeniable" conclusion. The article also is very scant on just what this study was, who conducted it and whether it was peer reviewed.

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Feb 17, 2023 23:05:24   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
bcheary wrote:
https://www.newstarget.com/2023-02-16-science-face-masks-dont-stop-c***d-t***smission.html

Sorry to burst your bubble, but masks do work!

It's now been over 3 years since the C****av***s started to spread around the world.

I've been fully v******ted and boosted, as well as wearing a face mask every time I go into a place of business.

I haven't been infected yet!

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Feb 17, 2023 23:07:29   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but masks do work!

It's now been over 3 years since the C****av***s started to spread around the world.

I've been fully v******ted and boosted, as well as wearing a face mask every time I go into a place of business.

I haven't been infected yet!


That’s because nobody there wants to be around you because nobody likes you.

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Feb 17, 2023 23:10:38   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Racmanaz wrote:
That’s because nobody there a score around you because nobody likes you.

Hardy, har, har, har, you're full of laughs!

Having trouble trying to get your words to mean something other than gibberish?

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Feb 17, 2023 23:12:22   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Hardy, har, har, har, you're full of laughs!

Having trouble trying to get your words to mean something other than gibberish?


Try reading my correction above. My statement couldn’t be more true.

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Feb 18, 2023 05:32:17   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
bcheary wrote:
https://www.newstarget.com/2023-02-16-science-face-masks-dont-stop-c***d-t***smission.html


I commute every working day on the Long Island railroad and I see very few peopl waring masks, almost nobody. So why are w still beating this dead horse

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Feb 18, 2023 06:23:05   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
flip1948 wrote:
Undeniable?

Your source article ends with:

"The latest review will not conclusively answer the scientific questions around mask efficacy, but it should answer any lingering questions over the harm of censorship..."

That's hardly an "undeniable" conclusion. The article also is very scant on just what this study was, who conducted it and whether it was peer reviewed.


Don't dismiss the message because of the poor quality of the messenger.

The article cited by the OP is a poorly written, biased political hit based on a study published in January by the Cochrane Database of Systemic Reviews, a highly respected, leading source of medical information.

It is best to read the actual study, which irresponsibly was not properly referenced in the article.

The Cochrane paper is entitled "Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory v***ses" and is a meta analysis of all published studies on the effectiveness of masks.

The main conclusions were that the studies failed to show benefit of masks in stopping v***l t***smission, and that N95 masks were not shown to be superior to medical/surgical masks:

1. "Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/C***D‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks"

2. "Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza/SARS‐CoV‐2 compared to not wearing masks"

3. "The use of a N95/P2 respirators compared to medical/surgical masks probably makes little or no difference for the objective and more precise outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza infection"

4. "One previously reported ongoing RCT has now been published and observed that medical/surgical masks were non‐inferior to N95 respirators in a large study of 1009 healthcare workers in four countries providing direct care to C***D‐19 patients."

In short, if there is a benefit to wearing masks in limiting the spread of C***d (and influenza), after 3 years of p******c, it has yet to be conclusively demonstrated.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full

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Feb 18, 2023 07:26:37   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
David Martin wrote:
Don't dismiss the message because of the poor quality of the messenger.

The article cited by the OP is a poorly written, biased political hit based on a study published in January by the Cochrane Database of Systemic Reviews, a highly respected, leading source of medical information.

It is best to read the actual study, which irresponsibly was not properly referenced in the article.

The Cochrane paper is entitled "Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory v***ses" and is a meta analysis of all published studies on the effectiveness of masks.

The main conclusions were that the studies failed to show benefit of masks in stopping v***l t***smission, and that N95 masks were not shown to be superior to medical/surgical masks:

1. "Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/C***D‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks"

2. "Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza/SARS‐CoV‐2 compared to not wearing masks"

3. "The use of a N95/P2 respirators compared to medical/surgical masks probably makes little or no difference for the objective and more precise outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza infection"

4. "One previously reported ongoing RCT has now been published and observed that medical/surgical masks were non‐inferior to N95 respirators in a large study of 1009 healthcare workers in four countries providing direct care to C***D‐19 patients."

In short, if there is a benefit to wearing masks in limiting the spread of C***d (and influenza), after 3 years of p******c, it has yet to be conclusively demonstrated.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full
Don't dismiss the message because of the poor qual... (show quote)

For those of us who have chosen to wear masks in public places for the last 3 years, and have avoided getting sick, masks do work.

I feel no no pity or sympathy for those of you who choose to go around maskless in public, and have ended up getting sick with either the common cold, the flu, or C****-**.

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Feb 18, 2023 08:55:35   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but masks do work!

It's now been over 3 years since the C****av***s started to spread around the world.

I've been fully v******ted and boosted, as well as wearing a face mask every time I go into a place of business.

I haven't been infected yet!


I have also had all shots and wore a mask almost all the time. I HAVE been infected just this past Thanksgiving. Luckily my experience was about the easiest of any disease I have ever had. I self quarantined for 5 days but was feeling 100% after 3 days.

How odd you on the Left told/tell us masks work when obviously they do not. People wearing masks DO get C***d. People with all v******tions up to date DO get C***d. Not only do we get the disease we are also fully capable of t***sferring it to others as well. The fact you have not yet been infected only means that, just like every other disease known to mankind, some will be infected and some will not. During the deadly flu of 1918 not every person was infected with the flu v***s. Many were not affected at all. During the black plague of the Middle Ages not every person was infected. You may never be infected and you may be infected tomorrow.

While you on the Left proclaim masks and v******tions are the end all you tend to forget people touch their face constantly and then touch door knobs, pens and pencils while signing credit card receipts in stores, touch chairs and counter tops after recently scratching their nose. Now tell us again about masks and v******tions.

Surely there are people across the globe who have never had even one v******tion and have never been infected. What about those people?

So once again the mask and shots do not stop you from being infected.

Dennis

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Feb 18, 2023 08:57:22   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
For those of us who have chosen to wear masks in public places for the last 3 years, and have avoided getting sick, masks do work.

I feel no no pity or sympathy for those of you who choose to go around maskless in public, and have ended up getting sick with either the common cold, the flu, or C****-**.


You will be wearing a mask for the rest of your life then, is that what you are telling us? How easily you forget those who have never worn a mask and never were v******ted who have never been sick with the C***d or flu.

Dennis

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Feb 18, 2023 09:17:04   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
For those of us who have chosen to wear masks in public places for the last 3 years, and have avoided getting sick, masks do work.

Flawed reasoning to assume that masks played a role, but if it works for you, fine.
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
I feel no no pity or sympathy for those of you who choose to go around maskless in public, and have ended up getting sick with either the common cold, the flu, or C****-**.

Thanks for sharing your feelings about others.

Question: how do you feel about those who do wear masks, and in fact count on them for protection because CDC said they work, but nonetheless contract C***d or influenza or the common cold?

And how do you feel about those who do not wear masks and still have not become ill?

I don't care if you and anyone else wears a mask. And you are mistaken if you assume that I don't in certain situations. The point is, masks were sold to us as protection we could count on, but the science to prove it -- meaning actual factual conclusive data and not anecdotal or emotional argument -- is simply not there.

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Feb 18, 2023 09:25:46   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I have also had all shots and wore a mask almost all the time. I HAVE been infected just this past Thanksgiving. Luckily my experience was about the easiest of any disease I have ever had. I self quarantined for 5 days but was feeling 100% after 3 days.

How odd you on the Left told/tell us masks work when obviously they do not. People wearing masks DO get C***d. People with all v******tions up to date DO get C***d. Not only do we get the disease we are also fully capable of t***sferring it to others as well. The fact you have not yet been infected only means that, just like every other disease known to mankind, some will be infected and some will not. During the deadly flu of 1918 not every person was infected with the flu v***s. Many were not affected at all. During the black plague of the Middle Ages not every person was infected. You may never be infected and you may be infected tomorrow.

While you on the Left proclaim masks and v******tions are the end all you tend to forget people touch their face constantly and then touch door knobs, pens and pencils while signing credit card receipts in stores, touch chairs and counter tops after recently scratching their nose. Now tell us again about masks and v******tions.

Surely there are people across the globe who have never had even one v******tion and have never been infected. What about those people?

So once again the mask and shots do not stop you from being infected.

Dennis
I have also had all shots and wore a mask almost a... (show quote)

Well, I guess I'm among the lucky few with really good genes.

My mother was what she called an "influenza baby", she was born just before the 1918 influenza p******c hit, and lived a good, long life, and rarely got sick with a bad cold or the flu.

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