Serious GOPers ask ... "Must We Lose to Joe Biden a Third Time?" (" ...the party of a yowling Marjorie Taylor Greene")
Feb 12, 2023 22:55:50 #
By RICH LOWRY
February 12, 2023 8:04 AM
(edited for brevity) https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/02/must-we-lose-to-joe-biden-a-third-time/
Don’t let it happen
Yet, assuming he’s physically capable of it, he is running again and has some serious chance of winning a second term (setting up the predicate for a crisis should his health give out before January 2029).
Yes, amazingly enough, Republicans could lose to Joe Biden a third time.
This would set some sort of record for utterly avoidable, self-imposed political futility.
Biden beat Donald Trump from his basement in 2020, and then pulled a rabbit out of his hat in the 2022 midterms when his approval ratings had pointed to a near-certain shellacking.
And, sure enough, he had a pretty good night (SOTU), in part because the Republican heckling and shouted rejoinders served his purposes.
If the v**ers believe the choice is between a rickety Joe Biden and the party of a yowling Marjorie Taylor Greene, they’re going to pick Biden every time.
Trump allegedly asked after the 2020 e******n, “Can you believe I lost to this effing guy?” Good question. And that effing guy could easily beat him again.
All this doesn’t counsel panic about 2024; it does counsel taking Biden seriously, and acknowledging that beating him is a challenge that will require shrewdness and prudence.
At times in 2022, it seemed that the political environment would save Republicans from paying the price for poor candidate choices in a number of key races (I certainly believed this to be the case). But the reality was that Republicans needed to be mindful of the real consequences of taking political risks — it jeopardized their chances in a bunch of places.
Trump already lost to him once, and that was before his delusions about the 2020 e******n, before J****** 6, before he added a whole host of new outlandish statements and actions to his already prodigious record, and before his once-fresh political act began to grow stale.
There’s every reason to believe that the Trump who lost to Biden in 2020 was much stronger than the Trump of today.
The fact is that association with Trump proved politically toxic in the 2022 midterms, and nothing has changed that dynamic.
His own former press secretary who owes her political career to him didn’t dare mention him by name in her response to the State of the Union.
Dodging the bullet on another Trump nomination, assuming the party can do it, is just the start. It needs to project a seriousness of purpose and a commitment to competent governance. That doesn’t mean that it should be fainthearted and compromising — indeed, the opposite — but it needs to realize that its target audience is wider than the base and that the often-ridiculous, usually dishonest Joe Biden is not a pushover.
Losing to him once was a shame. Losing twice was a travesty. Losing a third time would be an unforgivable disgrace. ... "
Rick Wilson (paraphrased) - "All Trump has to do is hang to enough of his base to go into primaries with a 15% advantage. He starts winning primaries and the party falls in line and he's the candidate again."
" ... the party of a yowling Marjorie Taylor Greene" spells 'real worry' for the GOPers that want to win government.
February 12, 2023 8:04 AM
(edited for brevity) https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/02/must-we-lose-to-joe-biden-a-third-time/
Don’t let it happen
Yet, assuming he’s physically capable of it, he is running again and has some serious chance of winning a second term (setting up the predicate for a crisis should his health give out before January 2029).
Yes, amazingly enough, Republicans could lose to Joe Biden a third time.
This would set some sort of record for utterly avoidable, self-imposed political futility.
Biden beat Donald Trump from his basement in 2020, and then pulled a rabbit out of his hat in the 2022 midterms when his approval ratings had pointed to a near-certain shellacking.
And, sure enough, he had a pretty good night (SOTU), in part because the Republican heckling and shouted rejoinders served his purposes.
If the v**ers believe the choice is between a rickety Joe Biden and the party of a yowling Marjorie Taylor Greene, they’re going to pick Biden every time.
Trump allegedly asked after the 2020 e******n, “Can you believe I lost to this effing guy?” Good question. And that effing guy could easily beat him again.
All this doesn’t counsel panic about 2024; it does counsel taking Biden seriously, and acknowledging that beating him is a challenge that will require shrewdness and prudence.
At times in 2022, it seemed that the political environment would save Republicans from paying the price for poor candidate choices in a number of key races (I certainly believed this to be the case). But the reality was that Republicans needed to be mindful of the real consequences of taking political risks — it jeopardized their chances in a bunch of places.
Trump already lost to him once, and that was before his delusions about the 2020 e******n, before J****** 6, before he added a whole host of new outlandish statements and actions to his already prodigious record, and before his once-fresh political act began to grow stale.
There’s every reason to believe that the Trump who lost to Biden in 2020 was much stronger than the Trump of today.
The fact is that association with Trump proved politically toxic in the 2022 midterms, and nothing has changed that dynamic.
His own former press secretary who owes her political career to him didn’t dare mention him by name in her response to the State of the Union.
Dodging the bullet on another Trump nomination, assuming the party can do it, is just the start. It needs to project a seriousness of purpose and a commitment to competent governance. That doesn’t mean that it should be fainthearted and compromising — indeed, the opposite — but it needs to realize that its target audience is wider than the base and that the often-ridiculous, usually dishonest Joe Biden is not a pushover.
Losing to him once was a shame. Losing twice was a travesty. Losing a third time would be an unforgivable disgrace. ... "
Rick Wilson (paraphrased) - "All Trump has to do is hang to enough of his base to go into primaries with a 15% advantage. He starts winning primaries and the party falls in line and he's the candidate again."
" ... the party of a yowling Marjorie Taylor Greene" spells 'real worry' for the GOPers that want to win government.
Feb 13, 2023 08:29:35 #
It is amazing to me that the Talkingheads so easily discount that the Dobbs decision had on the e******n. It is true that we had some bad candidates out there but at the same time some of the Democrat candidates that won their e******ns were even worse, PA and AZ.
Trump needs to retire from political life, even if he were to win it is hard for me to see that he could put together an effective cabinet after how the media, FBI, DOJ, and the Judicial branch treated his last cabinet, I would guess that most would not want to expose themselves to the BS that is the permanent government in DC.
Trump needs to retire from political life, even if he were to win it is hard for me to see that he could put together an effective cabinet after how the media, FBI, DOJ, and the Judicial branch treated his last cabinet, I would guess that most would not want to expose themselves to the BS that is the permanent government in DC.
Feb 13, 2023 11:56:45 #
Biden didn't win anything in 2022. Rich Lowry, a RINO L*****t Trump h**er can't even get that right.
He says, "Even if T***p w*n he couldn't put together an effective cabinet after how the media, FBI, DOJ, and the Judicial branch treated his last cabinet"? Look at the state of the media, FBI, and DOJ. All are corrupt Deep State shills for the Democrat party. Who knows this better than Donald Trump? And who has an axe to grind and a motivation to uproot this dangerous cabal?
He says, "Even if T***p w*n he couldn't put together an effective cabinet after how the media, FBI, DOJ, and the Judicial branch treated his last cabinet"? Look at the state of the media, FBI, and DOJ. All are corrupt Deep State shills for the Democrat party. Who knows this better than Donald Trump? And who has an axe to grind and a motivation to uproot this dangerous cabal?
Feb 13, 2023 12:01:01 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
It is amazing to me that the Talkingheads so easil... (show quote)
Who were the bad Republican candidates in 2020? And are you judging them bad just because they lost?
Feb 13, 2023 12:21:52 #
Fotoartist wrote:
Who were the bad Republican candidates in 2020? And are you judging them bad just because they lost?
Herschel Walker and Mehmet Oz to name two, Herschel's presentation of himself was not one that garnered respect and Oz, well if he couldn't beat Fetterman clearly he was the wrong candidate for PA, a different candidate would have had a better chance. Bolduc in New Hampshire, well far right politics only win in the deepest red states which New Hampshire proved not to be. Sometimes one must think about realities rather than pure ideology.
Feb 13, 2023 12:39:30 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
Herschel Walker and Mehmet Oz to name two, Herschel's presentation of himself was not one that garnered respect and Oz, well if he couldn't beat Fetterman clearly he was the wrong candidate for PA, a different candidate would have had a better chance. Bolduc in New Hampshire, well far right politics only win in the deepest red states which New Hampshire proved not to be. Sometimes one must think about realities rather than pure ideology.
Well Geo. Santos didn't lose. Does that make him a good candidate?
Mehmet Oz, an intelligent, honest, accomplished man with good policies who won his debate was bad? How so? And don't say a carpetbagger because that was Sen. Hillary Clinton.
Herschel Walker a Black, popular GA superstar who spoke his great policies for GA and America from his heart was bad compared to Warlock?
Bolduc like any true Republican didn't have a chance in Democrat Maryland unlike the RINO gov. there. But Republicans had to run somebody, that's the reality.
Feb 13, 2023 14:47:52 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
It is amazing to me that the Talkingheads so easil... (show quote)
You're right a******n was a significant wild card but mainly it was Trump fatigue/fear that motivated the swing v**es that the MAGA faction didn't even try to accommodate.
Feb 13, 2023 14:51:13 #
Fotoartist wrote:
Well Geo. Santos didn't lose. Does that make him a... (show quote)
You're missing the point, it's Trump die-hards like you that could actually get a much diminished Trump on the b****t to get stomped again. All the best pilgrim!
Feb 17, 2023 10:36:21 #
Thankfully, the v**ers in the State of Georgia saw through candidate Stacey Abrams and her second campaign for Governor, and hopefully thereby quashed her political aspiration for higher office.
She is corrupt. Read more at Wikipedia, to remind ourselves that she provided another conniving politician, HRC, with the questions for a political debate. This underhandedness defines her mentality. We don't need her kind in office, not even for dog catcher.
She is corrupt. Read more at Wikipedia, to remind ourselves that she provided another conniving politician, HRC, with the questions for a political debate. This underhandedness defines her mentality. We don't need her kind in office, not even for dog catcher.
Fotoartist wrote:
Well Geo. Santos didn't lose. Does that make him a... (show quote)
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