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Feb 7, 2023 23:09:31   #
usnret Loc: Woodhull Il
 
So now FJB wants to stop the abuse of f******l that is ravaging many of our poverty stricken intercities. I see no mention in his dialouge about preventing the drug from crossing our borders in the first place. No doubt the drug cartels are gonna keep on doing what they do best, making a mockery of our border security!

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Feb 8, 2023 10:44:36   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
usnret wrote:
So now FJB wants to stop the abuse of f******l that is ravaging many of our poverty stricken intercities. I see no mention in his dialouge about preventing the drug from crossing our borders in the first place. No doubt the drug cartels are gonna keep on doing what they do best, making a mockery of our border security!


FJB's SOTU speech in 2022 made exactly "0" mentions of F******l. So since he mentioned it this year, he feels that's making real progress, I guess.

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Feb 8, 2023 10:48:30   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yep. And his Border Czar, Kamal, has done nothing, so far as this onlooker can tell, to enforce existing law to stem the flow of i*****l m*****ts across the U.S.-Mexico border.
usnret wrote:
So now FJB wants to stop the abuse of f******l that is ravaging many of our poverty stricken intercities. I see no mention in his dialouge about preventing the drug from crossing our borders in the first place. No doubt the drug cartels are gonna keep on doing what they do best, making a mockery of our border security!

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Feb 8, 2023 10:58:21   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
usnret wrote:
So now FJB wants to stop the abuse of f******l that is ravaging many of our poverty stricken intercities. I see no mention in his dialouge about preventing the drug from crossing our borders in the first place. No doubt the drug cartels are gonna keep on doing what they do best, making a mockery of our border security!


We have been at “ war with drugs “ for 50 years.
It hasn’t ever worked and It doesn’t work now - stopping supply.
It always - like any other commodity - starts with demand.

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Feb 8, 2023 14:13:45   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
usnret wrote:
So now FJB wants to stop the abuse of f******l that is ravaging many of our poverty stricken intercities. I see no mention in his dialouge about preventing the drug from crossing our borders in the first place. No doubt the drug cartels are gonna keep on doing what they do best, making a mockery of our border security!



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Feb 8, 2023 14:23:15   #
srg
 
usnret wrote:
So now FJB wants to stop the abuse of f******l that is ravaging many of our poverty stricken intercities. I see no mention in his dialouge about preventing the drug from crossing our borders in the first place. No doubt the drug cartels are gonna keep on doing what they do best, making a mockery of our border security!


F******l is a choice. So is suicide. I have no desire to deprive those people of their freedom of choice.

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Feb 8, 2023 14:52:54   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
srg wrote:
F******l is a choice. So is suicide. I have no desire to deprive those people of their freedom of choice.


F******l isn’t always a choice. I understand your thinning of the heard mentality but many stupid young people are taking what they think are benign pharmaceuticals and perishing of f******l poisoning. If it happened to your loved one maybe you would have a different view on this particular drug, maybe not.

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Feb 8, 2023 15:13:02   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Effate wrote:
F******l isn’t always a choice. I understand your thinning of the heard mentality but many stupid young people are taking what they think are benign pharmaceuticals and perishing of f******l poisoning. If it happened to your loved one maybe you would have a different view on this particular drug, maybe not.


Absolutely agreed completely . It has to start with demand . Administration of all denominations have waged war for decades on supply with absolutely zero success .

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Feb 8, 2023 16:42:11   #
National Park
 
srg wrote:
F******l is a choice. So is suicide. I have no desire to deprive those people of their freedom of choice.


If your son were addicted to it, or had died from it, you might think differently.

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Feb 8, 2023 16:49:25   #
jcboy3
 
usnret wrote:
So now FJB wants to stop the abuse of f******l that is ravaging many of our poverty stricken intercities. I see no mention in his dialouge about preventing the drug from crossing our borders in the first place. No doubt the drug cartels are gonna keep on doing what they do best, making a mockery of our border security!


2 milligrams of f******l is a fatal dose for most people. The DEA intercepted enough f******l in 2022 to k**l every American. That t***slates to less than 1700 pounds.

I think, if you wanted to stop f******l from getting across the border, you would have to close the border. Completely. Nobody crosses. Anywhere.

No tequila for you!

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Feb 8, 2023 17:30:17   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
jcboy3 wrote:
2 milligrams of f******l is a fatal dose for most people. The DEA intercepted enough f******l in 2022 to k**l every American. That t***slates to less than 1700 pounds.

I think, if you wanted to stop f******l from getting across the border, you would have to close the border. Completely. Nobody crosses. Anywhere.

No tequila for you!


What about designating the cartels as a terrorist organization, are we just going to accept the murder of over 100K Americans each year, the hollowing out of our communities with drug addiction? I understand that demand is a problem but the cartels are an even bigger problem. Bush used the terror designation to fight terrorists where ever he found them, Obama did the same and so did Trump.

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Feb 8, 2023 17:37:20   #
pendennis
 
DennyT wrote:
We have been at “ war with drugs “ for 50 years.
It hasn’t ever worked and It doesn’t work now - stopping supply.
It always - like any other commodity - starts with demand.


I understand, and agree about the war on drugs. However, my solution is to let 'em die. Stop underwriting drug addiction with taxpayers' money. If you're stupid enough to knowingly take illegal drugs of any kind, then you deserve the consequences.

And you're comparison to supply and demand is flawed. We aren't talking about cameras and washing machines. Addiction is usually caused by someone giving out free/low-cost samples, knowing how fast addiction takes over the body/mind. People aren't "hooked" on Amana refrigerators.

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Feb 8, 2023 17:56:21   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
What about designating the cartels as a terrorist organization, are we just going to accept the murder of over 100K Americans each year, the hollowing out of our communities with drug addiction? I understand that demand is a problem but the cartels are an even bigger problem. Bush used the terror designation to fight terrorists where ever he found them, Obama did the same and so did Trump.

So we send troops in central America or China like we did Afghanistan or Iraq ?

Just my opinion but that is just more of the same we have tried for 50 years

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Feb 8, 2023 17:56:59   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
pendennis wrote:
I understand, and agree about the war on drugs. However, my solution is to let 'em die. Stop underwriting drug addiction with taxpayers' money. If you're stupid enough to knowingly take illegal drugs of any kind, then you deserve the consequences.

And you're comparison to supply and demand is flawed. We aren't talking about cameras and washing machines. Addiction is usually caused by someone giving out free/low-cost samples, knowing how fast addiction takes over the body/mind. People aren't "hooked" on Amana refrigerators.
I understand, and agree about the war on drugs. H... (show quote)


I think the population that trusted the doctors partying with Perdue might take issue with you.

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Feb 8, 2023 18:00:53   #
jcboy3
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
What about designating the cartels as a terrorist organization, are we just going to accept the murder of over 100K Americans each year, the hollowing out of our communities with drug addiction? I understand that demand is a problem but the cartels are an even bigger problem. Bush used the terror designation to fight terrorists where ever he found them, Obama did the same and so did Trump.


There is only one way to combat illegal drugs, and that is by making them legal.

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