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Eastern Oregon vs Southern Oregon University wrestling
Feb 3, 2023 21:42:32   #
btbg
 
Eastern Oregon University and Southern Oregon University decided to prevent Southern Oregon from having an eight hour bus ride and instead met in the middle approximately four hours drive for each school at Crook County High School. Both men's and women's teams participated.

Photos were taken with the wrestling under a spotlight, using fill flash and auto ISO. Yes some of the photos have a lot of noise because of high ISO.

Taken with Nikon Z9 and a 70-200 zoom.


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Feb 4, 2023 06:34:22   #
tshift Loc: Overland Park, KS.
 
btbg wrote:
Eastern Oregon University and Southern Oregon University decided to prevent Southern Oregon from having an eight hour bus ride and instead met in the middle approximately four hours drive for each school at Crook County High School. Both men's and women's teams participated.

Photos were taken with the wrestling under a spotlight, using fill flash and auto ISO. Yes some of the photos have a lot of noise because of high ISO.

Taken with Nikon Z9 and a 70-200 zoom.


Nice work. Thanks BE SAFE!!

Tom

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Feb 7, 2023 11:58:37   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
btbg wrote:
Eastern Oregon University and Southern Oregon University decided to prevent Southern Oregon from having an eight hour bus ride and instead met in the middle approximately four hours drive for each school at Crook County High School. Both men's and women's teams participated.

Photos were taken with the wrestling under a spotlight, using fill flash and auto ISO. Yes some of the photos have a lot of noise because of high ISO.

Taken with Nikon Z9 and a 70-200 zoom.


What shutter speed are you using? Great equipment at your disposal. I am still seeing motion blur. With your gear you could shoot at 1/1250-1/1600. In my opinion anyway. Don't worry so much about the noise. You might check some tutorials on youtube about your camera settings to help with the noise factor. Topaz products work wonders as long as you don't overdo it.
I have a D4 Nikon and can shoot up to 10,000 iso Topaz gets rid of most noise as long as you shoot tight. Your Z9 is a better camera than mine. Good luck.
Jules

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Feb 7, 2023 12:29:56   #
btbg
 
Jules Karney wrote:
What shutter speed are you using? Great equipment at your disposal. I am still seeing motion blur. With your gear you could shoot at 1/1250-1/1600. In my opinion anyway. Don't worry so much about the noise. You might check some tutorials on youtube about your camera settings to help with the noise factor. Topaz products work wonders as long as you don't overdo it.
I have a D4 Nikon and can shoot up to 10,000 iso Topaz gets rid of most noise as long as you shoot tight. Your Z9 is a better camera than mine. Good luck.
Jules
What shutter speed are you using? Great equipment... (show quote)


Yes, you are seeing some motion blur. I was shooting at 1/250th of a second because I had to use fill flash as it was under a spotlight. If you have never shot under a spotlight what you will quickly find out is that anytime the wrestlers get to the front half of the mat they are silhouetted because the light is behind them. If you try to shoot without flash at even 800th of a second the ISO will balloon to upwards of 25,600 as there are no other lights in the room other than the spotlight Can't shoot at over 1/250th unless you have the ability to use high sync flash, and I don't happen to own a flash that I can use for that with a Z9. So, the choice is only shoot when the wrestlers are on the back half of the mat, shoot with the flash turned up so high that you get rid of all ambient light, or use the flash for fill and the spotlight as the main light source. I prefer the third choice. The problem with using the flash as the primary light source is that the higher power the flash is turned up to the longer it takes to recycle so you can't shoot bursts of shots. The problem with using only the spotlight is that you can only shoot about half the time. That makes fill flash the best compromise. You can still shoot bursts of shots, but you get high some motion blur, a high ISO, and some noise. The farther from the camera the wrestlers are the greater the chance of motion blur using this method as the flash becomes a smaller portion of the light source.

I don't own Topaz, and since I work for a newspaper rarely do any noise reduction as noise does not show much in newsprint.

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Feb 7, 2023 15:03:49   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
btbg wrote:
Yes, you are seeing some motion blur. I was shooting at 1/250th of a second because I had to use fill flash as it was under a spotlight. If you have never shot under a spotlight what you will quickly find out is that anytime the wrestlers get to the front half of the mat they are silhouetted because the light is behind them. If you try to shoot without flash at even 800th of a second the ISO will balloon to upwards of 25,600 as there are no other lights in the room other than the spotlight Can't shoot at over 1/250th unless you have the ability to use high sync flash, and I don't happen to own a flash that I can use for that with a Z9. So, the choice is only shoot when the wrestlers are on the back half of the mat, shoot with the flash turned up so high that you get rid of all ambient light, or use the flash for fill and the spotlight as the main light source. I prefer the third choice. The problem with using the flash as the primary light source is that the higher power the flash is turned up to the longer it takes to recycle so you can't shoot bursts of shots. The problem with using only the spotlight is that you can only shoot about half the time. That makes fill flash the best compromise. You can still shoot bursts of shots, but you get high some motion blur, a high ISO, and some noise. The farther from the camera the wrestlers are the greater the chance of motion blur using this method as the flash becomes a smaller portion of the light source.

I don't own Topaz, and since I work for a newspaper rarely do any noise reduction as noise does not show much in newsprint.
Yes, you are seeing some motion blur. I was shooti... (show quote)


It all makes sense now, thanks for explanation.

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Feb 7, 2023 18:44:08   #
btbg
 
Jules Karney wrote:
It all makes sense now, thanks for explanation.


No problem. Sometimes you just have limited choices what you do to shoot an event. Hey, do you want a book called The Field Guide to the Nikon D4 and D4S? I no longer have a D4 and don't need the book. If it might be of use to you private message me and I can send it to you.

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Feb 7, 2023 20:15:01   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
btbg wrote:
No problem. Sometimes you just have limited choices what you do to shoot an event. Hey, do you want a book called The Field Guide to the Nikon D4 and D4S? I no longer have a D4 and don't need the book. If it might be of use to you private message me and I can send it to you.


Thanks so much for the offer, but I have the book that came with the D4

Jules

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