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Jan 30, 2023 11:45:04   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
Funny story about self-cleaning ovens.
I worked at a large military base in the housing maintenance unit. We repaired what needed some maintenance when the residents called. I was working the evening shift when I got a call from dispatch that the Admiral had a problem with the stove in the house - the wife was cooking dinner in the oven but when the meal was done she couldn't get the oven door open. The Admiral said he tried opening the door for a long time but it wouldn't open. We I arrived I noticed the oven door was in the locked position. I approached the range and flipped the lock handle to the open position. The Admiral was standing nearby and was surprised as hell that it opened so easy for me but he had such a problem with it. I had to explain self-cleaning ovens to him and the missus and to not lock the door when cooking dinner.

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Jan 30, 2023 11:45:49   #
ecblackiii Loc: Maryland
 
And that's why you should never, ever, use the oven.

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Jan 30, 2023 12:10:47   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
ecblackiii wrote:
Nonsense! The fearmongering was written by a person who has nothing useful to say. The odds of any of these happening is in the millions to one. Never in my 80 years have I ever encountered or even heard of anyone actually having any of these things that "MIGHT" happen. Getting into your automobile is far more likely to result in problems than any of the oven-cleaning hazards cited.

Just like gas stoves?...........

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Jan 30, 2023 13:11:26   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Good result!

As much as I hate the electric stove eating the Watts, I don't want gas around my house. Electricity doesn't explode.


I'm kinda that way but the range is all I have in the house and its on a 100# tank

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Jan 30, 2023 13:14:44   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Longshadow wrote:
Just like gas stoves?...........


Don't make a mess!! in the oven then cleaning is a wet rag and some soap.
And don't wast energy for convenience !!

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Jan 30, 2023 13:17:55   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Don't make a mess!! in the oven then cleaning is a wet rag and some soap.
And don't wast energy for convenience !!


We rarely have to put ours through the clean cycle.

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Jan 30, 2023 13:26:22   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Longshadow wrote:

We rarely have to put ours through the clean cycle.


I am even wondering about my automatic dish washer It takes almost 2 hrs to complete the job, There is just me and Murphy that's maybe three/four dishes a day, I can wash them in 10 mins.in the sink.

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Jan 30, 2023 13:54:15   #
SteveFranz Loc: Durham, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Good result!

As much as I hate the electric stove eating the Watts, I don't want gas around my house. Electricity doesn't explode.


Electricity doesn't explode, but it does arc which can be just as bad, albeit not as fast & sudden. In 2009 my 40 year old house got a short circuit on the unused 220V dryer line. (When we moved in we converted to a gas dryer and never used the 220V circuit.) The outlet box for the 220V line was nailed to a wall stud, and the nail was just a bit too close to the live 220V line. Over the years there was a bit of a shift in the walls and the nail contacted the live wire. The insurance company investigator and I found the nail and the wire. The nail had a notch burnt into the side, and the electric wire had a bead on the end where it had melted.

The electrical contractor said that he found one other outlet that was a similar fire hazard.

End result, over $200,000 fire and smoke damage to the house & contents. (mostly smoke damage)

Good news, after the restoration was done, my insurance rates went down. My house was restored to 2009 code, and thus rated as a new home instead of an 40+ year old home.

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Jan 30, 2023 14:01:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
SteveFranz wrote:
Electricity doesn't explode, but it does arc which can be just as bad, albeit not as fast & sudden. In 2009 my 40 year old house got a short circuit on the unused 220V dryer line. (When we moved in we converted to a gas dryer and never used the 220V circuit.) The outlet box for the 220V line was nailed to a wall stud, and the nail was just a bit too close to the live 220V line. Over the years there was a bit of a shift in the walls and the nail contacted the live wire. The insurance company investigator and I found the nail and the wire. The nail had a notch burnt into the side, and the electric wire had a bead on the end where it had melted.

The electrical contractor said that he found one other outlet that was a similar fire hazard.

End result, over $200,000 fire and smoke damage to the house & contents. (mostly smoke damage)

Good news, after the restoration was done, my insurance rates went down. My house was restored to 2009 code, and thus rated as a new home instead of an 40+ year old home.
Electricity doesn't explode, but it does arc which... (show quote)


One can smell gas, but not a pending electrical short.
Critters in the attic or walls can eat through the wire insulation causing a similar problem.

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Jan 30, 2023 14:11:23   #
Flyerace Loc: Mt Pleasant, WI
 
I don't cook often anymore, so the oven doesn't get too dirty. I wipe the inside down to get the "big" stuff off and REMOVE the wire racks (as advised by the owner's manual). After getting the basics done, I start the clean cycle. I usually do this at night and by morning, the oven is all done and cooled down. I've had the same double ovens for 32 years and have never had a problem. Buying good quality appliances is key to having mostly safe outcomes. There will be rare occasions when things go south, but I'm not worried about this problem. (Yes, I do have smoke alarms in and near my kitchen as well as the hall stairways going down to the basement and up to the second floor. I also have a carbon monoxide detector.

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Jan 30, 2023 14:16:47   #
mikenolan Loc: Lincoln Nebraska
 
Every appliance repair person I've ever talked to has said not to use the self-cleaning feature in an electric oven.

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Jan 30, 2023 14:27:23   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
mikenolan wrote:
Every appliance repair person I've ever talked to has said not to use the self-cleaning feature in an electric oven.

Interesting.
If it's such a danger then why do they provide that option?

I wonder how many cause fires as compared to how many are out there.

Kinda like Teslas I suppose, not all catch fire, but there doesn't seem to be the clamor to stop making them.

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Jan 30, 2023 17:52:00   #
mikenolan Loc: Lincoln Nebraska
 
It's not so much the danger as the number of repairs and replacements they see that were caused by using the self-cleaning feature.

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Jan 30, 2023 18:14:37   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
mikenolan wrote:
It's not so much the danger as the number of repairs and replacements they see that were caused by using the self-cleaning feature.

Well, I suppose the more that feature was used.
And I wonder how long ago that may have been?

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Jan 30, 2023 19:28:47   #
neillaubenthal
 
BigDaddy wrote:

My wife uses it on occasion. Nothings broke in 20+ years but the guy makes sense.
I know if I show her the video, she will tell me I can hand clean her oven anytime I want.


My wife and I have been married going on 46 years and you can probably count the number of times we've used the oven in the 15ish places we've lived over our Navy lives on both of our hands. We've always had a countertop oven that served to toast, broil, and bake smaller things…and with only ourselves and a single Childe using the big oven never made much sense to us. After 35 years we moved into an RV and it didn't even have an oven…we used the countertop and put a dishwasher in the oven space that got far more use. Moved out of the RV into our current home in Feb 20 and we've never even turned our oven on except for when the inspector did it before purchase.

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