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Took pictures at 2 high school hockey games and the vanished from SD card
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Jan 26, 2023 20:02:54   #
Moomoo48 Loc: Boston
 
I take pictures of niece and nephews hockey games and always upload to Mac put in folders for editing. Today when I did it it wouldn’t recognize ant image. I tried on my pc as well as a card reader. I tried using free recovery software and they were able to retrieve over 5700 pictures but not the 800 from the games last night.
I always format the card on the camera before each use. Any thoughts .
One thought is the free recovery software holds back giving you all images until you buy the premium versions.
In advance thanks for reading this.

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Jan 26, 2023 20:18:16   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
Moomoo48 wrote:
I take pictures of niece and nephews hockey games and always upload to Mac put in folders for editing. Today when I did it it wouldn’t recognize ant image. I tried on my pc as well as a card reader. I tried using free recovery software and they were able to retrieve over 5700 pictures but not the 800 from the games last night.
I always format the card on the camera before each use. Any thoughts .
One thought is the free recovery software holds back giving you all images until you buy the premium versions.
In advance thanks for reading this.
I take pictures of niece and nephews hockey games ... (show quote)


No. The software doesn't selectively return only some images.

Are you sure you didn't mix up some memory cards and you are looking at the wrong card?

Or, does your camera have two card slots, and you are looking at the wrong card?

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Jan 26, 2023 20:21:44   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When you say not recognized, what do you mean? Do you mean files appear on the card that the computer OS can 'see' exist, but won't copy or show the thumbnails? Or, does the card appear empty of all image files?

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Jan 26, 2023 20:23:29   #
Moomoo48 Loc: Boston
 
JimH123 wrote:
No. The software doesn't selectively return only some images.

Are you sure you didn't mix up some memory cards and you are looking at the wrong card?

Or, does your camera have two card slots, and you are looking at the wrong card?


No I always remove the card upload the images to a file on my MAC desktop then I use LR to edit.

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Jan 26, 2023 20:26:03   #
User ID
 
No expertise in recovery apps, but heres a possibly useful idea.

Offload that 5700 to some temporary storage by copy-AND-delete. Then if the 800 are still hiding on the card maybe a second running of the recovery app will find them since they are now supposedly "the only stuff left".

I put that in quotes cuz, as youve now discovered, even after a format, stuff is not ever really gone from a card. But my hopeful idea is that the 800 will now be "less deeply buried" and the app might find the 800 instead of the 5700.

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Since formatting is always risky, maybe youve also proved for yourself that theres no real space to be gained from doing it as constantly as you have been, and yet theres always the risk of a misstep.

Best of luck to you with all this.

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Jan 26, 2023 20:30:58   #
Moomoo48 Loc: Boston
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
When you say not recognized, what do you mean? Do you mean files appear on the card that the computer OS can 'see' exist, but won't copy or show the thumbnails? Or, does the card appear empty of all image files?


Appears to be empty

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Jan 26, 2023 20:32:30   #
Moomoo48 Loc: Boston
 
User ID wrote:
No expertise in recovery apps, but heres a possibly useful idea.

Offload that 5700 to some temporary storage by copy-AND-delete. Then if the 800 are still hiding on the card maybe a second running of the recovery app will find them since they are now supposedly "the only stuff left".

I put that in quotes cuz, as youve now discovered, even after a format, stuff is not ever really gone from a card. But my hopeful idea is that the 800 will now be "less deeply buried" and the app might find the 800 instead of the 5700.
Worth a try.
Thanks
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Since formatting is always risky, maybe youve also proved for yourself that theres no real space to be gained from doing it as constantly as you have been, and yet theres always the risk of a misstep.

Best of luck to you with all this.
No expertise in recovery apps, but heres a possibl... (show quote)

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Jan 26, 2023 20:36:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Moomoo48 wrote:
I take pictures of niece and nephews hockey games and always upload to Mac put in folders for editing. Today when I did it it wouldn’t recognize ant image. I tried on my pc as well as a card reader. I tried using free recovery software and they were able to retrieve over 5700 pictures but not the 800 from the games last night.
I always format the card on the camera before each use. Any thoughts .
One thought is the free recovery software holds back giving you all images until you buy the premium versions.
In advance thanks for reading this.
I take pictures of niece and nephews hockey games ... (show quote)


Do the photos show up in the camera?
If yes, they are there and it would be computer interface issue of some sort.

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Jan 26, 2023 22:30:07   #
Moomoo48 Loc: Boston
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Do the photos show up in the camera?
If yes, they are there and it would be computer interface issue of some sort.

Awesome idea and they were there. I was finally able to download from the camera them to my PC. I never had an issue like this before. My question is what causes interface issues and how can they be prevented in the future

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Jan 27, 2023 00:41:37   #
User ID
 
Moomoo48 wrote:
Awesome idea and they were there. I was finally able to download from the camera them to my PC. I never had an issue like this before. My question is what causes interface issues and how can they be prevented in the future

One thought would be to quit formating after every use. Its not good for the card. If you wanna clear out stuff, just delete it.

Its great that your camera can see pix on a card thaz been through the rescue procedure. Cameras are usually unhappy with files that have been "meddled with". Most typically even if the camera doesnt see recued files the PC will see them.

The rescue that I have done, just once, renamed all the files. That was enough to confuse the camera but not the PC. But in your case it seems the opposite has prevailed, and good for you !

A few files on camera card failed to view in-camera cuz I had rotated them in a PC viewer. Even after rotating them back via the PC, the camera still could not display them due to that meddling. Rotating back doesnt remove the rotation tag. It just adds a 2nd tag in the opposite direction.

BTW, its clear that youve got your 800 hockey pix back now. When you saw those in the camera, were the 5700 "rescued" earlier pix now showing up again, in the camera as well ?

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Jan 27, 2023 01:33:29   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
User ID wrote:
One thought would be to quit formating after every use. Its not good for the card. If you wanna clear out stuff, just delete it.

Its great that your camera can see pix on a card thaz been through the rescue procedure. Cameras are usually unhappy with files that have been "meddled with". Most typically even if the camera doesnt see recued files the PC will see them.

The rescue that I have done, just once, renamed all the files. That was enough to confuse the camera but not the PC. But in your case it seems the opposite has prevailed, and good for you !

A few files on camera card failed to view in-camera cuz I had rotated them in a PC viewer. Even after rotating them back via the PC, the camera still could not display them due to that meddling. Rotating back doesnt remove the rotation tag. It just adds a 2nd tag in the opposite direction.

BTW, its clear that youve got your 800 hockey pix back now. When you saw those in the camera, were the 5700 "rescued" earlier pix now showing up again, in the camera as well ?
One thought would be to quit formating after every... (show quote)


Depends upon the camera whether you should format or delete. Sony cameras should should be formated or deleted in camera. Sony maintains some sort of file structure that erasing somewhere else doesn't deal with, and holes are left in this file structure. For instance, you can't copy a picture onto a memory card on a PC, and plug that card into a Sony camera, and then see that picture on the camera.

I also have Olympus cameras, and they do not have the Sony behavior.

Don't know what camera the OP was using.

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Jan 27, 2023 02:09:08   #
User ID
 
JimH123 wrote:
Depends upon the camera whether you should format or delete. Sony cameras should should be formated or deleted in camera. Sony maintains some sort of file structure that erasing somewhere else doesn't deal with, and holes are left in this file structure. For instance, you can't copy a picture onto a memory card on a PC, and plug that card into a Sony camera, and then see that picture on the camera.

I also have Olympus cameras, and they do not have the Sony behavior.

Don't know what camera the OP was using.
Depends upon the camera whether you should format ... (show quote)

True about sony, but sony provides for those who prefer mass deleting via PC. No Rocket Science involved. I use the "Restore Image Database" menu line. Takes just a few seconds to run it.

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Jan 27, 2023 05:34:05   #
Capn_Dave
 
Moomoo48 wrote:
Awesome idea and they were there. I was finally able to download from the camera them to my PC. I never had an issue like this before. My question is what causes interface issues and how can they be prevented in the future


It seems that Apple might have something to do with it.

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Jan 27, 2023 07:34:49   #
Moomoo48 Loc: Boston
 
User ID wrote:
One thought would be to quit formating after every use. Its not good for the card. If you wanna clear out stuff, just delete it.

Its great that your camera can see pix on a card thaz been through the rescue procedure. Cameras are usually unhappy with files that have been "meddled with". Most typically even if the camera doesnt see recued files the PC will see them.

The rescue that I have done, just once, renamed all the files. That was enough to confuse the camera but not the PC. But in your case it seems the opposite has prevailed, and good for you !
No just the ones from the games I had lost. You mentioned I should quit formatting the card after every use and deleted the images. I have always formatted and never had a problem.
A few files on camera card failed to view in-camera cuz I had rotated them in a PC viewer. Even after rotating them back via the PC, the camera still could not display them due to that meddling. Rotating back doesnt remove the rotation tag. It just adds a 2nd tag in the opposite direction.

BTW, its clear that youve got your 800 hockey pix back now. When you saw those in the camera, were the 5700 "rescued" earlier pix now showing up again, in the camera as well ?
One thought would be to quit formating after every... (show quote)

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Jan 27, 2023 07:36:12   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Moomoo48 wrote:
My question is what causes interface issues and how can they be prevented in the future


I doubt there is an answer to your first question, but a camera with slots for two memory cards would be good insurance.

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