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Jan 25, 2023 22:46:11   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
jcboy3 wrote:
If you can afford it, then what are you whining about?


you are so out of touch of what property owners are responsible for...sad lil dude

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Jan 26, 2023 06:45:32   #
jcboy3
 
pendennis wrote:
For giggles and grins, let us say that Newsom's i***tic "Wealth Tax" is enacted, and his equally i***tic legislature includes a provision to go after the wealth of those who've departed the Garden of California.

First, as I mentioned earlier, the state laws can only apply to those who live in California now. Once free of the Hotel California, before any wealth tax would be passed, those who reside in another state, have no liability when it comes to new California taxes, regardless the schema.

Now, for current residents, who is going to provide the assessment value for all those assets held? Just which Solomonic employee is going to provide a fair and equitable value of the same asset type held by different people? Assume that all 65 Vettes for example are valued at $75K. The guy in SF, who has a garage queen may have one which would bring $125K at auction, and some poor schmuck in LA has one that would only bring $35K on its best day. How do you split the baby?

And how do you know that the guy in SF may house his Vette in Reno? Who's going to lead the search party?

Inquiring minds want to know!!!
For giggles and grins, let us say that Newsom's i*... (show quote)


You don’t seem to be thinking about the truly wealthy. But as Trump so clearly showed, it seems to be easy to manipulate how wealthy one actually is.

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Jan 26, 2023 06:48:46   #
jcboy3
 
wilpharm wrote:
you are so out of touch of what property owners are responsible for...sad lil dude


I own property. I’ve sold property because I didn’t want the hassle or expense of owning it. That includes second houses, development property, and ranch land. As I said, if you can’t afford to keep it, sell it.

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Jan 26, 2023 09:13:27   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
jcboy3 wrote:
I own property. I’ve sold property because I didn’t want the hassle or expense of owning it. That includes second houses, development property, and ranch land. As I said, if you can’t afford to keep it, sell it.


i doubt that many decisions are made on "what you said"... tycoon, huh?

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Jan 26, 2023 11:06:30   #
pendennis
 
jcboy3 wrote:
You don’t seem to be thinking about the truly wealthy. But as Trump so clearly showed, it seems to be easy to manipulate how wealthy one actually is.


I'm thinking in terms of the total picture. There are folks out there who aren't "truly wealthy" and own a classic Vette, etc.

And you haven't thought through the ability of the "truly wealthy" to create schemes both on- and off-shore to protect that wealth from taxation, Donald Trump excluded.

The Founders were truly visionary. They knew, from their studies of history, even in the 19th Century, that the tighter the government squeezed the wealth of the rich, the more they would be inclined to hide, or otherwise make that wealth unavailable for seizure.

The best tax policies are the most simple in design and execution, and the most likely to get the most bang for the buck. Consumption taxes work, and contrary to popular (and mistaken) opinion, everyone who pays them also ends up with skin in the game. There are various schemas out there which exempt a certain amount of income for everyone (usually the base poverty level). And implementing consumption taxes will put most of the IRS folks out on the street, where they'll have to find useful employment.

The guy who can afford to buy the 115 foot yacht is hardly going to worry about a sales/use tax. I'm far from being rich, but sales/use tax is never in my calculus when I buy anything.

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Jan 26, 2023 11:31:40   #
jcboy3
 
pendennis wrote:
I'm thinking in terms of the total picture. There are folks out there who aren't "truly wealthy" and own a classic Vette, etc.

And you haven't thought through the ability of the "truly wealthy" to create schemes both on- and off-shore to protect that wealth from taxation, Donald Trump excluded.

The Founders were truly visionary. They knew, from their studies of history, even in the 19th Century, that the tighter the government squeezed the wealth of the rich, the more they would be inclined to hide, or otherwise make that wealth unavailable for seizure.

The best tax policies are the most simple in design and execution, and the most likely to get the most bang for the buck. Consumption taxes work, and contrary to popular (and mistaken) opinion, everyone who pays them also ends up with skin in the game. There are various schemas out there which exempt a certain amount of income for everyone (usually the base poverty level). And implementing consumption taxes will put most of the IRS folks out on the street, where they'll have to find useful employment.

The guy who can afford to buy the 115 foot yacht is hardly going to worry about a sales/use tax. I'm far from being rich, but sales/use tax is never in my calculus when I buy anything.
I'm thinking in terms of the total picture. There... (show quote)


I wasn't arguing in favor of the wealth tax. I was discussing the concept of how a state can tax someone that isn't a resident.

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