For Sony users only, a new Sony E-mount 300mm f2.8 GM is coming. Will this fill any of your missing needs?
Top pro, Patrick Murphy-Racey talks about the coming Sony E-mount 300mm f2,8 GM lens. Sony already had an excellent A-mount 300mm f2.8 lens which you can use on E-mount with a lens adapter, but this will be the first native E-mount 300mm f2.8 GM lens, to go along with current Sony E-mount long primes, 400mm f2.8 GM and 600mm f4 GM.
Sony has native E-mount long zooms including both excellent and popular 100-400mm GM lens, and 200-600mm G lens. Sony has excellent quality 1.4X and 2X Teleconverters for E-mount. This new 300mm f2.8 GM might come with an internal TC. There are many current and excellent Third-Party long zooms in native Sony E-mount, but Sony doesn't allow Sony TC use with these third-party lens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Mp5RfdHR0Cheers and best to you
bwana
Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
gwilliams6 wrote:
Top pro, Patrick Murphy-Racey talks about the coming Sony E-mount 300mm f2,8 GM lens. Sony already had an excellent A-mount 300mm f2.8 lens which you can use on E-mount with a lens adapter, but this will be the first native E-mount 300mm f2.8 GM lens, to go along with current Sony E-mount long primes, 400mm f2.8 GM and 600mm f4 GM.
Sony has native E-mount long zooms including both excellent and popular 100-400mm GM lens, and 200-600mm G lens. Sony has excellent quality 1.4X and 2X Teleconverters for E-mount. This new 300mm f2.8 GM might come with an internal TC. There are many current and excellent Third-Party long zooms in native Sony E-mount, but Sony doesn't allow Sony TC use with these third-party lens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Mp5RfdHR0Cheers and best to you
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I'll stick with my FE 200-600 zoom; more than adequate!
bwa
Speed booster on a Nikkor 300 on the a6500 gets me close enuf to f:2.8.
For FF at 300mm I find barely adequate DoF at f/8 or 11 anywho, but maybe the weight of an f/2.8 would help to damp some vibration.
When the f/2.0 version comes out Im sure youll let us know.
User ID wrote:
Speed booster on a Nikkor 300 on the a6500 gets me close enuf to f:2.8.
For FF at 300mm I find barely adequate DoF at f/8 or 11 anywho, but maybe the weight of an f/2.8 would help to damp some vibration.
When the f/2.0 version comes out Im sure youll let us know.
I have to know and teach this stuff as Professor of Photography at a state university;
Three factors affect Depth of Field;
1) Lens aperture
2) Lens focal length
3) Distance from Lens to subject
So there is NO single shot you can post that shows all DOF of a 300mm lens at f4 on a fullframe camera. Distance from lens to subject is a huge variable to whether you have shallow or extended DOF in any 300mm f4 lens shot.
Here is a shot from my archives as Danny Harf wins the gold medal in wakeboarding during the X-Games held in Philadelphia in 2003. Fullframe Nikon D2, Nikon 300mm f2.8 lens, 300mm, ISO 800, f4, 1/1000 sec. Much more depth of field than your example.
Cheers and best to you.
joecichjr
Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
gwilliams6 wrote:
I have to know and teach this stuff as Professor of Photography at a state university;
Three factors affect Depth of Field;
1) Lens aperture
2) Lens focal length
3) Distance from Lens to subject
So there is NO single shot you can post that shows all DOF of a 300mm lens at f4 on a fullframe camera. Distance from lens to subject is a huge variable to whether you have shallow or extended DOF in any 300mm f4 lens shot.
Here is a shot from my archives as Danny Harf wins the gold medal in wakeboarding during the X-Games held in Philadelphia in 2003. Fullframe Nikon D2, Nikon 300mm f2.8 lens, 300mm, ISO 800, f4, 1/1000 sec. Much more depth of field than your example.
Cheers and best to you.
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This is how I would look as soon as the boat accelerated (Great action freeze) πΊπΊπΊπΊπΊ
joecichjr
Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
User ID wrote:
Speed booster on a Nikkor 300 on the a6500 gets me close enuf to f:2.8.
For FF at 300mm I find barely adequate DoF at f/8 or 11 anywho, but maybe the weight of an f/2.8 would help to damp some vibration.
When the f/2.0 version comes out Im sure youll let us know.
I love it
An eye-opening macro π
gwilliams6 wrote:
I have to know and teach this stuff as Professor of Photography at a state university;
Three factors affect Depth of Field;
1) Lens aperture
2) Lens focal length
3) Distance from Lens to subject
So there is NO single shot you can post that shows all DOF of a 300mm lens at f4 on a fullframe camera. Distance from lens to subject is a huge variable to whether you have shallow or extended DOF in any 300mm f4 lens shot.
Here is a shot from my archives as Danny Harf wins the gold medal in wakeboarding during the X-Games held in Philadelphia in 2003. Fullframe Nikon D2, Nikon 300mm f2.8 lens, 300mm, ISO 800, f4, 1/1000 sec. Much more depth of field than your example.
Cheers and best to you.
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As I said, with 300mm Im getting barely adequate DoF at f/8 or 11. Maybe the weight of a 300/2.8 would damp some vibration. Acoarst my budget may prefer that I just add some weight to current lenses. OTOH when I was offered a fully modern 300/2.8 for $300, I hefted it and replied no thank you. You posed us all a question as to our need or our interest. I guess you didnt want real answers. I am noticing that youll follow that template periodically with product announcements. Very professorial of you.
joecichjr wrote:
This is how I would look as soon as the boat accelerated (Great action freeze) πΊπΊπΊπΊπΊ
Thanks, he won the gold medal in spite of a brace over his knee.
Cheers and best to you ,
User ID wrote:
As I said, with 300mm Im getting barely adequate DoF at f/8 or 11. Maybe the weight of a 300/2.8 would damp some vibration. Acoarst my budget may prefer that I just add some weight to current lenses. OTOH when I was offered a fully modern 300/2.8 for $300, I hefted it and replied no thank you. You posed us all a question as to our need or our interest. I guess you didnt want real answers. I am noticing that youll follow that template periodically with product announcements. Very professorial of you.
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Thousands of shots are made with plenty of DOF field every day with 300mm f2.8 lenses at wider than f8, f11. If you are trying to use it as a macro lens, then maybe that is your point. Yes long lenses can be used at their closest focus distance for some macro work.
Yes you are right, a 300mm f2.8 lens will fit your needs as a macro lens better stopped down f8, f11 if you are seeking more extended DOF.
What do you want to shoot with a 300mm f2.8 lens? A lighter true macro lens of say 105mm would be easier to use and far less weight to hold steady handheld for macro shots. Is that what you are trying to convey with your real answer ?
Trust me there is no question or real answer that I haven't gotten before from one of my hundreds of photo students over the years.
Most people interested in any 300mm f2.8 lens to "fill any of your missing needs" are not primarily looking to use it as such an expensive, big and heavy macro lens.
Cheers and best to you.
gwilliams6 wrote:
Thousands of shots are made with plenty of DOF field every day with 300mm f2.8 lenses at wider than f8, f11. If you are trying to use it as a macro lens, then maybe that is your point. Yes long lenses can be used at their closest focus distance for some macro work.
Yes you are right, a 300mm f2.8 lens will fit your needs as a macro lens better stopped down f8, f11 if you are seeking more extended DOF.
What do you want to shoot with a 300mm f2.8 lens? A lighter true macro lens of say 105mm would be easier to use and far less weight to hold steady handheld for macro shots. Is that what you are trying to convey with your real answer ?
Trust me there is no question or real answer that I haven't gotten before from one of my hundreds of photo students over the years.
Most people interested in any 300mm f2.8 lens to "fill any of your missing needs" are not primarily looking to use it as such an expensive, big and heavy macro lens.
Cheers and best to you.
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My typical distance is (very approximately) 20 yards.
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You can cease reminding me that youre a professor. Some of those I have learned from but others Ive had to teach. (Im not categorizing you.)
Jeffcs
Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
Coming from Nikon to Sony Iβd rather see a 180f2.8 for me the 200-600 covers what I need
I still have a Tokina 300mm f/2.8 for my old antiquated A-mount system...built like a tank and sharp for a 24mp sensor...but that's about it.
I like the focal length and low light combination on the Tokina...it's a good marriage.
I'll be looking at it closely when it comes out.
User ID wrote:
My typical distance is (very approximately) 20 yards.
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You can cease reminding me that youre a professor. Some of those I have learned from but others Ive had to teach. (Im not categorizing you.)
The shot of the wakeboarder was maybe 30 yards distance away. I didn't need f8 for decent DOF with a 300mm f2.8 lens for that shot. Not sure what are the subjects you are shooting at 300mm.
In my photography courses you would have loads of fun while learning for sure. And I always encourage all my students to contribute to the learning process for us all, including for me. I hope I never stop learning.
Cheers and best to you.
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