SunnyDays Loc: Montreal, Canada and Boca Raton

I have been a canon user for years. as I age I find the canon d60mll heavy
I would switch to a mirrorless camera. There are so many choices today.
I am interested in bird photography and floral photography. Multiple exposures as well.
What do you recommend? Does not have to be pro quality
Naomi

BebuLamar

I doubt that going mirrorless would make it any lighter especially you use long lenses for birds.

linda lagace

Naomi. I just bought Sony ar7 iva. It's not the latest. But the price was right and with the Sony 200 - 600 lens I am getting some good pics although I have a long ways to go on really knowing how to use it. There are some great videos esp mark Smith on how to use it for birding. I am going to buy a used sony 24-105 f4 soon for landscapes and non bird pics. I am an amateur who used my Nikon d800 for 10 years before it's greater than 183000 actuations finally did it in. The Sony camera had great reviews for birding at a good price. Of course I could have chosen to go with the highest end Sony or Nikon but felt I couldn't really justify it with my amateur status and lack of funds . Just my personal opinion and I am sure you will get many differing ones on this site. Will post a few of my best pics in next few days.

linda lagace

Naomi. Should add the 200-600 lens does make things heavy, although it handles well. The camera itself is light and you get lots of pixels 61mp

gwilliams6

Actually mirrorless bodies tend to be lighter and even mirrorless-designed long lenses come in lighter than their DSLR-designed long lens equivalents. It all adds up.

As one who used the best DSLRs and DSLR-designed lenses from Nikon and Canon for over 40 years (both brands), I can tell you there is a significant reduction in the total weight and size of my total mirrorless kit (cameras and lenses) vs the same equivalent kit of DSLR bodies and DSLR-designed lenses.

And I can fit more mirrorless gear into the same camera bags and cases than I could my eqivalent DSLR gear . And when I carry it on a plane, or trek through the woods for a wildlife shoot ,or shoot a long wedding day or a long sporting event, the weight and size difference is readily apparent. My back thanks me for moving to mirrorless every day I shoot. Just a fact. .

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

You may want to consider M4/3.

gwilliams6

I was a pro Canon and Nikon user for over 40 years (both brands) before I moved over to Sony mirrorless six years ago. I have no regrets. There are so many distinct advantages and innovation advances of my mirrorless gear that I would never go back to any DSLR, ever.

Sony has a great lineup of cameras in all price ranges for hobbyists to enthusiasts to professionals. Starting out I would look at the fullframe 33mp Sony A7IV.
https://www.sony.com/en-ae/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7m4

The fullframe 61mp A7RIVa or 61mp A7RV might be more than you need, and much more costly than you want to pay for as a first mirrorless.

The Sony E-mount is the most widely produced and most widely used mirrorless lens mount in the world. There are over 200 native E-mount lenses in all price ranges available from Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Samyang/Rokinon, Zeiss, Tokina, Viltrox, Yongnuo, Meike and others .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_E-mount_lenses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_third-party_Sony_E-mount_lenses

FYI, i have owned Sony APS-C A6500; and Fullframe A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, and currently own fullframe Sony A7RIV, A1, A7SIII. I currently own 13 native E-mount lenses covering 10mm to 600mm from Sony, Sigma, Tamron. I did keep one Canon lens from my extensive Canon lens collection, the Canon TS 17mm f4 Tilt-Shift lens which I use on my Sony cameras with my MC-11 lens adaptor.

Cheers and best to you.

linda lagace

The specs will tell you how much Sony camera and lens weigh compared to yours . But how it feels in your hands means a lot more than numbers. I decided to buy the Sony after picking it up.

gwilliams6

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

I am just learning my Canon R7 and RF 100-500L lens, so far they are great. If you prefer full frame there is a guy on Face Book doing outstanding bird photos with the R5 and RF 100-500L. https://www.facebook.com/Quickscribbles

My R7 is prone to motion blur because of the tiny pixels of the 32MP crop sensor, but not as bad as the 90D, R7 has IBIS.
R7 has a sibling, the R10 with 24MP crop sensor. The 18-150 offered as one of the two choices for a kit lens is very good. It is what I got with my R7. The combo is small and light compared to my Canon DSLR bodies with the EF 100-400L for going after birds. RF 100-500 is about the same size as the EF 100-400L but lighter due to new materials.
And they have a choice of three adaptors, so you can use your Canon EF lenses or any third party lens with the EF mount. I have used it with my Tamron 150-600 G2 on a tripod for birds and my Canon 100 mm Macro.

ELNikkor

Depending on what you want to do with the photos, I agree with Mac. A 4/3 system is lighter and capable of professional results. Check out Olympus or Lumix systems. Youtube videos will be informative as to their virtues.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

Look at and seriously consider Panasonic M4/3 G series. Latest have Dual OIS/IBIS which negates low light probs.
They have some great lenses with a wide choice in terms of range and quality.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Olympus OM-1 for size, weight, and pre-capture for use when photographing birds.

chipwilder

If weight is an issue but you need longer lenses for bird photography, you might consider a Nikon P950 bridge camera. It has a 16MP sensor and a built in zoom lens that has a maximum equivalent of 2000mm. It is small enough to take anywhere. The sensor is a bit noisy above 400 ISO but DeNoise takes care of that issue.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

R7 is extremely fast, has the AF of the R3 which is the absolute best in the industry, has the highest IQ of the APSC cameras from Canon, Nikon and Sony by a wide margin to allow for the needed cropping and has bird eye AF.
It has all the features that you want and more.
It will use seamlessly all your current EOS lenses, unlike Nikon and others who are not compatible with SLR/DSLR lenses for the most part.
You can enhance all your old lenses with the control ring adapter bringing new features to them that are found on the RF lenses.
And it won't break the bank by having to buy new lenses and it is reasonably priced.
Being APSC it gives you the birding reach as well.
If you have a Canon flash it will work either as is or a couple will need an inexpensive adapter which again gives full compatibility.
There is no better birding/action APSC camera made and it will do macro, floral etc. just as well.