Stanford University has determinted that the term "American" should be replaced by "U.S. Citizen."
LDB415
Loc: Houston south suburb
home brewer wrote:
When traveling over seas I have always said I am from the United states. I grew up thinking I lived in the United States of America. The US is not America but just one nation of many that resides on the North American continent.
It is rare I agree with the Stanford nuts
Key word of. This nation is absolutely the United States
of America. No different than being one of the Smiths of Ohio or Bakers of Iowa or whatever. There is nothing wrong or incorrect in saying that. It is not wrong or incorrect to say United States either, but both are absolutely correct.
rlv567
Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
Longshadow wrote:
ditto.
...but, "I'm" and American!
not a USAnian.
Further to this never-ending battle about naming: Looking at “information” retrieved by Google (of course, the absolute arbiter of all things!), there is total confusion about which country even belongs in which continent. Mexico, in particular, is subject to likely the most disagreement, being listed variously as being in North America, Central America and South America – depending upon whose “authority” you wish to accept! Some group the Central American countries in with South America, some do not. Some include Caribbean countries, some do not. The fairly generally accepted rationale seems to be that from long standing usage, Americans are only those citizens of the United States. Always being a perfectionist, I argue that in actuality, our country is the United States, described in its official nomenclature as being “OF AMERICA”, designating its location. In fact, there can be no simpler – or more LOGICAL – interpretation. And the citizens of every country on the North and South American continents are in actuality “AMERICANS”!!! However, common usage, even in those countries not the United States, does dictate ignoring the correct appellation, wherein a citizen of North, Central or South America truly is an American! This detracts not in the least from those of us either born or naturalized in the United States, as its citizens!!!
In addition to the potential confusion, and arguing for the need for clarity, there have been many other entities designated officially as United States of some location other than America!!! Again, "of America" is a designation of location, which logically should have been "of North America"!!!
Loren – in Beautiful Baguio City
As an American member of the liberal left, I assure you that I and most also find that list dumb and irritating. If you look into it, you will find that the list includes lots of commonly used terms and phrases that are now to be avoided.
"Man-power", "grandfather" (?), "brave" (huh?), and so on.
Language evolves on its own accord, and there ain't nothing anybody can or should try to dictate. There is much to also criticize about the far right, but the folks on the far left are wacky too.
rlv567 wrote:
Further to this never-ending battle about naming: Looking at “information” retrieved by Google (of course, the absolute arbiter of all things!), there is total confusion about which country even belongs in which continent. Mexico, in particular, is subject to likely the most disagreement, being listed variously as being in North America, Central America and South America – depending upon whose “authority” you wish to accept! Some group the Central American countries in with South America, some do not. Some include Caribbean countries, some do not. The fairly generally accepted rationale seems to be that from long standing usage, Americans are only those citizens of the United States. Always being a perfectionist, I argue that in actuality, our country is the United States, described in its official nomenclature as being “OF AMERICA”, designating its location. In fact, there can be no simpler – or more LOGICAL – interpretation. And the citizens of every country on the North and South American continents are in actuality “AMERICANS”!!! However, common usage, even in those countries not the United States, does dictate ignoring the correct appellation, wherein a citizen of North, Central or South America truly is an American! This detracts not in the least from those of us either born or naturalized in the United States, as its citizens!!!
Loren – in Beautiful Baguio City
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Kinda depends on the context, eh?
Like European.......
So what about the continents?
North...what?
Central...what?
South...what?
Bridges
Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
SteveR wrote:
In it's annual search of terms that might be offensive to SOMEBODY, Stanford University has determined that the term "American" might be offensive to those individuals who were not born here yet are U.S. Citizens. This could have some profound affects on our society and literature. For instance, Amerigo Vespuci would now be referred to as U.S. Citizen Vespucci, despite the fact that he was Italian. Lee Greenwood's song would now become "I'm proud to be a U.S. Citizen." American Indians would, ofc, be Native U.S. Citizens. We'd have the U.S.Citizen Flag, the U.S. Citizen Baseball League. I guess America the Beautiful would become United States the Beautiful. Doesn't have quite the same ring to it. Of course the movie The Ugly American would become The Ugly U.S.Citizen. Citizen Cane would not be affected, ofc.
Let's just hope Stanford's "suggestion" doesn't catch on and we can all remain Americans.
To tell you the truth, my Italian Grandparents were more than proud to say that they were Americans once they became citizens.
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I believe Stanford should change its name. It represents the elite segment of U.S. Citizenry -- those who can attain immortality by giving enough money to have something named after them. Maybe they should change the name to Assholes University and no one could be offended, after all, everyone has one.
Bridges wrote:
I believe Stanford should change its name. It represents the elite segment of U.S. Citizenry -- those who can attain immortality by giving enough money to have something named after them. Maybe they should change the name to Assholes University and no one could be offended, after all, everyone has one.
Well I know my place I am not complaining. I can't afford Stanford. I am not an American. I am only a US Citizen. Call me whatever they want. I know my place.
n4jee wrote:
I was born in the USA and have always thought that it was presumptuous of us to consider that we are the only "Americans." America is the continent. North America also contains the countries of Canada and Mexico. Are they not Americans? What about the South and Central American populations.
They identify with their countries, as Brazilians, Peruvians, Argentinians, etc..
The United States of America was the name decided upon by the founders and made sense at the time according to the boundaries that existed. “American” became a shortened version for the USA. Maybe “Americans” should call themselves United Statesians?
Dannj wrote:
They identify with their countries, as Brazilians, Peruvians, Argentinians, etc..
The United States of America was the name decided upon by the founders and made sense at the time according to the boundaries that existed. “American” became a shortened version for the USA. Maybe “Americans” should call themselves United Statesians?
I'll stick with American, the old context.
SteveR wrote:
In it's annual search of terms that might be offensive to SOMEBODY, Stanford University has determined that the term "American" might be offensive to those individuals who were not born here yet are U.S. Citizens. This could have some profound affects on our society and literature. For instance, Amerigo Vespuci would now be referred to as U.S. Citizen Vespucci, despite the fact that he was Italian. Lee Greenwood's song would now become "I'm proud to be a U.S. Citizen." American Indians would, ofc, be Native U.S. Citizens. We'd have the U.S.Citizen Flag, the U.S. Citizen Baseball League. I guess America the Beautiful would become United States the Beautiful. Doesn't have quite the same ring to it. Of course the movie The Ugly American would become The Ugly U.S.Citizen. Citizen Cane would not be affected, ofc.
Let's just hope Stanford's "suggestion" doesn't catch on and we can all remain Americans.
To tell you the truth, my Italian Grandparents were more than proud to say that they were Americans once they became citizens.
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Would it be offensive if Canadians, Central Americans, and South Americans started calling themselves Americans instead of Mexican, Nicaraguan, Colombian, Salvadoran, Brazilian, etc. ……?
Stan
Well, that would surely change "American Gigolo" and "American Werewolf In London" for us movie fans.
kymarto
Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
Makes sense really, since the US is only one of 35 countries in the Americas
sippyjug104 wrote:
Well, that would surely change "American Gigolo" and "American Werewolf In London" for us movie fans.
Usanian Werewolf does have a ring though.
Excellent work, clearly demonstrates the degree of lunacy or perhaps terminal cancer that has invaded our once higher learning universities. Time to permanently close their doors.
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