Maintaining JPEG Copies or not (Page 5): Similarly: I keep my jpgs in a folder named for the event (the folder exists, even if I don't export any jpgs for that event) the raw files are...

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

Longshadow wrote:

Interesting...
I like having the RAW and all my <edited> JPEGS next to each other in the same folder.
One stop shopping.....

Similarly:
I keep my jpgs in a folder named for the event (the folder exists, even if I don't export any jpgs for that event)
the raw files are in a subfolder of that event folder.

I can back up the folder and that backs up any jpgs and includes the subfolder with the raw files.
I back up that folder before reformatting the camera card.

davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.

DirtFarmer wrote:

Similarly:
I keep my jpgs in a folder named for the event (the folder exists, even if I don't export any jpgs for that event)
the raw files are in a subfolder of that event folder.

I can back up the folder and that backs up any jpgs and includes the subfolder with the raw files.
I back up that folder before reformatting the camera card.

If ya all would just shoot jpeg life would be oh so much simpler!

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

DirtFarmer wrote:

Similarly:
I keep my jpgs in a folder named for the event (the folder exists, even if I don't export any jpgs for that event)
the raw files are in a subfolder of that event folder.

I can back up the folder and that backs up any jpgs and includes the subfolder with the raw files.
I back up that folder before reformatting the camera card.

Yup, I always let Carbonite backup the new files on the HD before I delete the files on the card.

goldenyears Loc: Lake Osewgo

AzPicLady wrote:

I keep original downloads from the camera(s).

Same for me. Some are RAW and some are JPG, depending on what camera they come from. If from my cellphone, it depends on if the RAW setting has had unnoticed change from misbehaving fingertips. If from my Canon they're always RAW because the settings are secure from unwanted alteration. The only other copies I am interested in saving are the copies of the much smaller number I've postprocessed for the web or for printing.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

davyboy wrote:

If ya all would just shoot jpeg life would be oh so much simpler!

Oh, but it wouldn't be simpler at all.

If I shot jpg, I would be tempted to just save the file to an appropriate folder without going through Lightroom. If I were to do that, I would lose the photo because Lightroom is the only way I can find things, given my aging memory. I probably would be able to find it again because I put meaningful names on the files, but it would take me some time searching. With Lightroom, finding a file takes less than 5 seconds.

I spend enough time looking for non-image files on my computer. Don't want to add image files to that list.

anotherview Loc: California

Nope.

CHG_CANON wrote:

Are you suggesting to perform all that redundant work effort and wasted time at the OS-level after doing the same inside Lightroom?

jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America

davyboy wrote:

Just start shooting jpeg only and get on with your life. You’ll thank me in the morning

Then we were limited to edit crappy jpegs, have a folder structure for the unedited (8-bit) jpegs and another for the edited (also 8-bit) jpegs, without the benefit of a dam.

To all the jpeg lovers: didn't you realize that the JPEG standard is *very* *very* *VERY* obsolete and the very JPEG association has been trying to kill it for ages?

JPEG2000, JPEG XR, JPWG XT, JPEG XL, WEP P 2, HEIC are all much better, but they don't succeed because of corporate greed from an actor of another. Either they are boycotted by Apple, or Google, or Adobe, or MS, just because they want to impose theyr own formats... All of them are either 10-bit or 12-bit deep.

Jpeg 8-bit images are originally of the VGA format !!!! 1987, REALLY !!??

The moment all monitors go to 10-bit pr 12-bit HDR (2023 or 2024), all those 8 bit jpegs won't look very nice... like DVDs on Full-HD TV sets. I've already seen it, it sucks.

You'll regret not havig shot in RAW and have the chance to simply re-export to a better format in the near future.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Retired CPO wrote:

Okay. I'm going to have to put my ignorance on full view again. What is OS level?

OS - Operating System. The File Manager / File Explorer (even an old DOS / CMD window) are tools provided by the computer's OS to navigate the local file system.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

CHG_CANON wrote:

OS - Operating System. The File Manager / File Explorer (even an old DOS / CMD window) are tools provided by the computer's OS to navigate the local file system.

Level is the revision level (rev. #).

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Longshadow wrote:

Level is the revision level (rev. #).

No, not in the context 'level' was used in the quoted question.

One can think of computers as a vertical stack, where physical hardware exists at the lowest level of the stack. An operating system sits one level up, depending on how complicated you want describe the technical components of this stack. Application software sits one level up, on top of the hardware and OS in this 'stack' diagram.

The version / revision level of the OS is not applicable in this context of differentiating the levels between OS and application software.

jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America

Longshadow wrote:

Level is the revision level (rev. #).

Depends on the context... For example it could be the good ol' x86 protection ring levels.

00 = kernel level
01 = driver level
10 = system level
11 = application level

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

CHG_CANON wrote:

No, not in the context 'level' was used in the quo... (show quote)

Ahhh, program hierarchy...
I didn't get the context properly, I misinterpreted "at the OS level".
I usually don't delve into program hierarchy.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

jlg1000 wrote:

Depends on the context... For example it could be the good ol' x86 protection ring levels.

00 = kernel level
01 = driver level
10 = system level
11 = application level

Now I get it....

Mickey Finn