... meanwhile somewhere in Norway Loc: none

I was contemplating my next move to streamline my work flow and considered switching to mirror-less... but

First off, the Canon 1DX MK3 is my workhorse, and a MK2 has been my back camera since early 2021. I also keep a 5D Mk4 around that I had purchased in 2017 for odd projects.

I started to look around the classifieds and soon found a lightly used 1DX MK3 with only 30K on the clicks. The price was less than half of a new one at $3200. It also came with a C Fast card, charger, and the original box and packaging.

I have yet to see any image that anyone can be attributed to a Mirror-less camera... and personally the image produced from the MK3 is second to none. The 1DX MK3 will also continue to be the Canon flagship until mid 2024 for a good reason...

I will upgrade to the R1 I am sure come 2024, but for now, I am very pleased to have found a true bargain. I can not say enough about the eye/ face accuracy of the 1DX MK3, and compared to the mirror-less cameras I have been able to use, The IDX MK3 has performed more accurately and consistently. I actually do not like live view through the view finder, but when I do shoot live view, I use a high quality 7 inch monitor and really like that for composure and focus.

The MK2 and 5D4 I have will be sold soon, and life will be simpler now. A few days ago I was not so aware of the idea, but now that I see the plentiful bargains out there, I highly recommend others consider the same option.

In the end, my glass will not need to be replaced, and I get the best of both worlds with this second 1DX MK3 Hybrid. Many feel a need to replace their excellent DLSR's believing the absence of a mirror will make them better photographers. I say not always true... Look for the bargains and spend so much less!

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

If you want to be a better photographer, there are two things you must do above all others: buy a mirrorless camera and use it.

gwilliams6

Whatever works for you works for you. You have made your choice and it makes you happy, that is all that matters for you.

But for this longtime pro who has used the best of pro DSLRs from both Nikon and Canon for the past four decades, including owning and using my Canon 1DX MkII, the move to fullframe mirrorless has so many performance advantages for me in a highly competitive workplace.

The top News Services around the world agree, as they have dumped their Nikon and Canon DSLRs and moved to fullframe mirrorless gear for all their staff photographers and staff videographers worldwide.

These News Services in the past 24months have gone to Sony A1, A9II, A7RIV/V, A7SIII, FX3, FX6; and to Nikon Z9. None have stayed with their Canon 1DX Mk3 or gone to Canon mirrorless either for their staffers.

Here are their reasons to move to mirrorless in their own words:
https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/

Surely on a cost basis you are saving money going used and staying with what you know, what you are comfortable with and what lens lineup you already have.

For me and others it was worth it to move on from DSLR cameras and DSLR lenses to better mirrorless camera performance and features, with better, more modern, more compact lens optical designs and better linear lens focus motors.

Sure it was partly an emotional decision to part ways with my Canon and Nikon DSLR gear which I relied on covering all subjects around the world from pro sports to war conflict coverage.

I did pretty good financially selling all my Canon and Nikon stuff, and putting that money towards my move to Sony. I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, and currently own and use A1, A7RIV, A7SIII. I currently have 13 E-mount lenses covering from 10mm to 600mm from Sony, Sigma and Tamron.

Nearly six years since my move to mirrorless back in January 2017, I have absolutely no regrets with my move and I miss nothing about those big bricks of those Nikon and Canon DSLRs. They still are good cameras that still make good shots no doubt, but just arent for me anymore.

Cheers and best to you and your decision to go used Canon DSLR. For many that will be the way that makes sense for them.

Full disclosure, I kept one Canon lens, the Canon TS 17mm f4 Tilt-Shift lens which I use with the MC-11 lens adapter.

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tramsey Loc: Texas

After what you posted I thought that things had changed and the 850 wasn't on top anymore. I took a serious look a Sony's a7RV and it does have several advantages over the 850 ... except for image quality. The Sony is still a came in a little shy of the 850 so I won't get excited. Thanks for making me curious

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

It depends on your needs. I like my Sony A7II, but I recognize the newer models do even more as well as up the resolution. Our OP is satisfied with the size, weight and only 20MP of the final 1-series DSLR. When, the EOS R5 or EOS R3 are considered 'better' in the mirrorless line-up, pending the 1-series EOS mirrorless release, still sometime in the future.

I still shoot primarily with my EOS 5DIII at 22MP. No reason to replace this camera that does everything I need it to do.

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

So what are all you mirrorless buyers-users going to do 10 years from now when your mirrorless camera has been turned into an obsolete paperweight by even more advanced technology? Jump on the bandwagon and tell mirrorless shooters how crappy their camera is?

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Photography is easy when you don’t know how, but very difficult when you refuse to go mirrorless.

gwilliams6

The D850 is perhaps the best stills image quality DLSR ever made by Nikon or anyone (with its Sony sensor), but the Sony A7RIV and A7RV have 32% more megapixels 61mp vs 46mp for greater resolution and detail in every shot.

Feel free to choose a D850 for whatever reasons work for you, but it doesn't have overall better image quality than the A7RIV/A7RV, as the greater resolution and detail of the 61mp A7RIV and 61mp A7RV, and their better low light sensitivity does matter, in addition to all the other advantages of mirrorless over any DSLR.

Here some facts about each camera:
https://cameradecision.com/compare/Sony-Alpha-A7R-IV-vs-Nikon-D850

https://www.apotelyt.com/compare-camera/nikon-d850-vs-sony-a7r-iv

Cheers and best to you.

... meanwhile somewhere in Norway Loc: none

Great to see people comment both ways. I personally think Canon's color is the best. As far as detail, pixels are rated by quality also and that includes spacing and size. It is funny to hear comments that claim the number of pixels make a camera superior. I print 48 wide many times and 21 mpx is more than enough. What I also find interesting is that 98 percent of the average photographers out there only post internet or view there work on a monitor after the fact. For that you need 1/4th the size of the original file. I peronallly do not like the raw data from Fuji and not real fond of Sony. I have a X100S and have experience with several mirrorless cameras. All cameras produce images and in the end you should use what works best for you. With the growing size of mirrorless bodies and now lenses, the only advantage may be the viewfinder for some. The 1DX MK3 is a hybrid and will act as a mirrless with the screen. For portraiture I use a monitor, so I don't need a live view peep hole. I'm sure when the evolution is further along mirrorless will overshadow DLSR's for good...but for now, you can get the job done efficienly and get top quality images with top notch DLSR's. They are affordable and work great. I would love to see someone prove their mirrorless image is superior to a DLSR's... And not everyone works for the news media or uses mirrorless exclusively... There is a mix at best. The 1DX MK3 has only been out for less than three years, is still the flag ship for Canon, and will continue to be for at least another year and a half. Until there is a mirrorless to replace it or one that can out perform it across the board, I will continue to use it. There are no real advantages quite yet as far as I'm concerned....

tramsey Loc: Texas

I stand corrected. Cameradecision.com is one of the camera comparison sites that I use. For some reason it wouldn't let me compare the 7r-iv only the 7r-iii. But I think I'll hang unto my 850 for a while longer. It's like an old friend now. I still have a Nikon F2 that became an old friend a couple of decades ago. Who knows maybe I'll have the current old friend for that long.

Thanks for correcting me.

BebuLamar

I don't see the prices of used DSR's go down though. They are still very expensive.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

10 year life of a camera is about correct.
Even the pro mechanical film cameras had about a 10 year life cycle.
The Canon EOS lenses for EF and EF-S have been around for 35 years and even with mirrorless are still 100% relevant on mirrorless.
And likely will continue to be so in the foreseeable future.
So possibly 50 years from now your 1987 EF lens will still be compatible. No other system can make that claim.
But for cameras, yes they will still work beyond 10 years. But your $1,500 iPhone will likely be a POS in 10 years.

JimBart Loc: Western Michigan

Please explain why this is the case. I have a D 7100 and am happy with my results. Why should I change unless I have a GAS attack. Everyone does not need the latest and greatest

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

"Many feel a need to replace their excellent DLSR's believing the absence of a mirror will make them better photographers."

No, that move will not make anyone a better photographer although mirrorless cameras have many technical advantages over a dSLR that make photography easier. Look at the technology in Olympus mirrorless cameras. High resolution shot, Starry sky, Pro capture, Live Composite, built in ND filter just to mention a few. Many photographers have switched to mirrorless simply because the cameras tend to be lighter and smaller. At the end of the day the photographer on assignment with a mirrorless will show less fatigue than the usual dSLR shooter.

I am using both types of cameras and I am comfortable with both but admit that when I travel I take a mirrorless with me which is convenient for its small size and weight. In a small bag I can carry my mirrorless camera and three lenses with no sweat.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Great Jim! You're a rare UHH community member that understands the deeper truth.