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Nov 26, 2022 07:57:36   #
srg
 
User ID wrote:
Shoot the dog.


He is guilty of the heinous crime of provoking yet another filter thread.

In more civilized cultures, the dogs master is buried alongside his dog.


😂🤣

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Nov 26, 2022 08:33:58   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
Ruthlessrider wrote:
How could I do that to such handsome boy.


next time, click on the "Quote Reply" button before answering somebody's post.

H

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Nov 26, 2022 08:39:23   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Always place your camera on top of the strap, folded and safe. Place the camera far away from the edge of a drop. Practice this action before you learn the cost of not following these best practices.


Better yet, don't use a strap - or if you do, have quick disconnect on it and ONLY connect when in actual use - and, oh yea - keep a ROUND hood on your lens 24/7 and cap the hood ! - especially when you go to Disneyland 8-)
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Nov 26, 2022 08:59:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Always place your camera on top of the strap, folded and safe. Place the camera far away from the edge of a drop. Practice this action before you learn the cost of not following these best practices.


Straps can be deadly.

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Nov 26, 2022 09:04:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
That really isn't definitive proof that the filter saved your lens. Drop it on the floor without that filter and see what happens.

Generally speaking, the lens is much stronger that a filter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CLPTd6Bds

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Nov 26, 2022 09:22:18   #
Bubbee Loc: Aventura, Florida
 
Ruthlessrider wrote:
How could I do that to such handsome boy.


NEVER NEVER!!!

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Nov 26, 2022 09:28:50   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
Something similar happened to my P900. Had a clear protective filter on it as I do with all my cameras. Camera fell to the floor in the closet. Protective filter shattered but the camera came out unscathed.

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Nov 26, 2022 09:59:06   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Lens hoods are for Disneyland, filters are for life.


Naw...... Come on now....Lens hoods make you LOOK cool! Thas' whys' I use 'em!

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Nov 26, 2022 10:14:11   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Indi wrote:
Something similar happened to my P900. Had a clear protective filter on it as I do with all my cameras. Camera fell to the floor in the closet. Protective filter shattered but the camera came out unscathed.


Over the years I have broken a few filters and not from just the ring but actual rock impact on the glass.
No damage to the lens, just unscrewed the filter, and upon returning home bought a new one.
I do not always have a filter on. I evaluate potential damage for the outing and potential risk and decide on using or not.
So like most things in life there are no hard and fast rules. Just intelligent evaluations and choices.

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Nov 26, 2022 10:34:00   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I will wade into this endless debate and quagmire topic, that never dies. In my four decades as a professional photojournalist covering everything from pro sports to war conflict, I have always protected my vast lens investment with top optical quality filters, most nano-coated , with full anti-glare properties.

I have never lost optical quality with the best top optical quality filters, and there has never been an MTF-standard optical test that has proved otherwise, never. . I have made literally millions of images around the world, and never lost an assignment, never lost a publication, never lost a client, or ever lost an award by using the best top optical quality filters over my lenses, ever.

And these top optical quality filters (I prefer B+W nano-coated) have saved countless lens front elements from flying debris, grit, sand, mud, water, oil, chemicals, and accidental intrusions, over excited kids, fellow packs of competitive photographers at events, accidental trips, falls, and attacks from angry mobs and even angry mobsters, and even an angry crooked judge being photographed, all true happenings. Many a filter has sacrificed its life and saved one of my lenses, just a fact.

Lens hoods I also use, but lens hoods alone will do nothing for direct intrusion. I know this from vast real-world experiences.

And when I go to trade or sell any of my lenses, I remove the filter and I have a pristine front element to sell, giving me more value every time.

As far as bird feathers, and insect wings, here are just a couple of many shots I could show you, all made with top optical quality filters over my lenses.

1-2) Full frame and a tight crop of same shot; A great White Egret bends its neck to clean its feathers on the Caribbean island of Sint Maarten/St. Martin. Sony A1, Sony 200-600mm lens (with a B+W top optical protective filter), 591 mm, ISO 1600, f6.3, 1/2000 sec., handheld. All natural sunlight.

3) A dragonfly in Manistee National Forest, USA. Sony A7III, Sigma Art 70mm f2.8 Macro DG lens (with a protective B+W filter), 70mm, ISO 6400, f22, 1/1000 second, handheld, all natural sunlight only.

Click on download to see better quality of the images.

This pro will continue to use top optical quality protective filters on all my lenses. Do what you want with your lenses.

Cheers and best to you all.
I will wade into this endless debate and quagmire ... (show quote)


Can't argue with success.

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Nov 26, 2022 10:37:21   #
User ID
 
foathog wrote:
next time, click on the "Quote Reply" button before answering somebody's post.

H

Unless its in any thread about protective filters. Then it really doesnt matter in the least who thinks who is replying to whom.

On second thought shoot the dog anyway.

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Nov 26, 2022 10:52:15   #
CliffMcKenzie Loc: Lake Athens Texas
 
User ID wrote:
Shoot the dog.


He is guilty of the heinous crime of provoking yet another filter thread.

In more civilized cultures, the dogs master is buried alongside his dog.



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Nov 26, 2022 11:03:06   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Over the years I have broken a few filters and not from just the ring but actual rock impact on the glass.
No damage to the lens, just unscrewed the filter, and upon returning home bought a new one.
I do not always have a filter on. I evaluate potential damage for the outing and potential risk and decide on using or not.
So like most things in life there are no hard and fast rules. Just intelligent evaluations and choices.
Over the years I have broken a few filters and not... (show quote)


You are right! I bow to your knowledge.

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Nov 26, 2022 11:11:31   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I will wade into this endless debate and quagmire topic, that never dies.


But you provided very nice pictures, so it's ok that you kept the thread alive a little longer.

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Nov 26, 2022 11:52:04   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Ruthlessrider wrote:
I’m sure it has been said before, but I just want to reiterate and reinforce that if you think that the filters that you put on the end of your expensive lenses (between about $20-$140) are too expensive, guess again. Yesterday, getting ready for a trip to Europe I had my R5 and 16-35mm lens sitting on the granite top of the island in our kitchen. I also had a carrying strap attached to it, and when I walked away from it I didn’t notice that the strap fell off the countertop. When our Bernese came in from outside, he came in, as he usually does, very excited with his tail wagging near the speed of light and it came in contact with the strap pulling the camera and lens to the stone tile floor. CRASH! As my heart sunk to the level of the camera, I reached down and picked it up noticing that the edge of the filter took the hit and was bent inward, and the glass was shattered. To make a long story short, after I was able, with the help of a Dremil drill, to cut the filter’s ring loose without damaging the lens’ edge, I remounted the lens to the camera, and much to my relief, lens and camera work fine. Wew. Spend the money.
I’m sure it has been said before, but I just want ... (show quote)


Or, don't spend the money and take proper care of your camera. LOL!

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