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Nov 27, 2022 06:25:48   #
Harry02 Loc: Gardena, CA
 
minniev wrote:
Update the OS to whatever OS the computer specs can handle, then try again to install Lightroom. You may not be able to get the most recent version of Lightroom to work but you should be able to get fairly close. You should be able to run a more current OS than Sierra, which is pretty old. As a subscriber, he has access to older versions of Lightroom if he has to back up a bit from the current iteration.


Without "Metal" code he can't get higher than High Sierra- but that's a good one.
There are cheats to get higher OSX, but they rely on that code for graphics, *sigh*
I work on these. Look at "About this mac". You need to add ram, maybe an SSD.
AT worst, max the ram, add the SSD, and install Windows. Which will run.

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Nov 27, 2022 10:24:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Weren't they giving away Nik a few years ago? I have downloads from 2014 and 2016. Just checking, I see that I have Nik Studio installed. As a matter of fact, looking at my downloads, I see that I have twenty-one folders of photo programs, not counting those that aren't in folders. No sales resistance at all!

Yes, it is super easy to replace the Mac HDD with an SSD. I did that with my 2012. The odd thing is, no computer will acknowledge the existence of that HDD from the MacBook Pro. I have it in an enclosure, and the light lights up, but no computer will read it. No app in Windows sees it, either. When I built my computer in 2016, I paid $270 for a Samsung 500GB M.2. Now, a 1TB M.2 can be had for $200 less.
Weren't they giving away Nik a few years ago? I h... (show quote)


An old Mac hard drive or SSD should be formatted so it is readable by all Macs. I have several old Apple drives that are now in enclosures, essentially serving as backups of what was on those Macs when I replaced their drives.

External conventional drives should be formatted as MacOS Extended, Journaled, with a GUID Partition Map, so they can be read by any Mac. Macs formatted with APFS can read MacOS Extended, Journaled disks, but a Mac with the internal drive formatted using MacOS Extended, Journaled, with a GUID Partition Map cannot read external drives formatted with APFS!

Windows and Macs can share drives formatted with ExFAT. However, ExFAT can be dangerous to your data. If a drive is unplugged or power goes down while the drive is in use, open files may be corrupted beyond recovery, and the drive catalog may be damaged severely. Be extra cautious using ExFAT.

The free versions of NIK software won't work on the latest versions of MacOS, and certainly are not Apple Silicon native.

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Nov 27, 2022 10:56:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
An old Mac hard drive or SSD should be formatted so it is readable by all Macs. I have several old Apple drives that are now in enclosures, essentially serving as backups of what was on those Macs when I replaced their drives.

External conventional drives should be formatted as MacOS Extended, Journaled, with a GUID Partition Map, so they can be read by any Mac. Macs formatted with APFS can read MacOS Extended, Journaled disks, but a Mac with the internal drive formatted using MacOS Extended, Journaled, with a GUID Partition Map cannot read external drives formatted with APFS!

Windows and Macs can share drives formatted with ExFAT. However, ExFAT can be dangerous to your data. If a drive is unplugged or power goes down while the drive is in use, open files may be corrupted beyond recovery, and the drive catalog may be damaged severely. Be extra cautious using ExFAT.

The free versions of NIK software won't work on the latest versions of MacOS, and certainly are not Apple Silicon native.
An old Mac hard drive or SSD should be formatted s... (show quote)


Are you implying that the drive has to be formatted in the machine it used to be in? I just plugged it into this Dell, and it lights up and runs, but Windows doesn't see it.

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Nov 27, 2022 11:06:10   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Are you implying that the drive has to be formatted in the machine it used to be in? I just plugged it into this Dell, and it lights up and runs, but Windows doesn't see it.


Doesn't show the drive when you select "This PC" icon or doesn't show contents?

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Nov 27, 2022 11:29:25   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Jrhoffman75 wrote:
Doesn't show the drive when you select "This PC" icon or doesn't show contents?


It shows nothing anywhere - just the blinking light. I tried Disk Manager and Diskpart. I don't think I tried it on the MBP I removed it from.

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Nov 27, 2022 11:30:56   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It shows nothing anywhere - just the blinking light. I tried Disk Manager and Diskpart. I don't think I tried it on the MBP I removed it from.


That would be good to try - at least see if the MacBook recognizes it.

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Nov 27, 2022 12:05:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It shows nothing anywhere - just the blinking light. I tried Disk Manager and Diskpart. I don't think I tried it on the MBP I removed it from.


EDIT: I just connected it to the 2012 MBP it came out of, but nothing showed up. The drive runs, but the computer doesn't show it.

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Nov 27, 2022 12:13:28   #
ABJanes Loc: Jersey Boy now Virginia
 
AFPhoto wrote:
My Grand son (16yo) is visiting me for the holiday weekend. I got him into photography a few years ago by passing down my Canon 50D and a few lenses. He has has taken off like a rocket and is now even the official photographer for his high school. He is currently using a new(ish) but slow windows laptop to edit using his subscription to Light Room Classic and Photoshop. Last night I found a 2013 MacBook Pro that used to be mine several years ago and I cleaned it up and he tried to install his Lightroom Classic but was informed that the operating system -SIERA- was inadequate ( not surprising). Is there anything that we can do short of trashing this computer?
My Grand son (16yo) is visiting me for the holiday... (show quote)


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211238.

Can you upgrade to Big Sur?

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Nov 27, 2022 12:21:16   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
ABJanes wrote:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211238.

Can you upgrade to Big Sur?


Apparently, Yes!

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=upgrade+2013+macbook+to+big+sur

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Nov 27, 2022 13:21:58   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Are you implying that the drive has to be formatted in the machine it used to be in? I just plugged it into this Dell, and it lights up and runs, but Windows doesn't see it.


No. It has to be in the right format SCHEME. APFS is the preferred format for all solid state drive devices used on newer Macs. However, if you plug an APFS drive into a Windows PC, or a Mac with a startup drive formatted as MacOS Extended, it will not be recognized or mounted.

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Nov 27, 2022 18:13:52   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
Thanks Jerry!! I may do this with my 2009 MacBook Pro and 2010 Mac Pro desktop

jerryc41 wrote:
I've seen several posts on YouTube that show how to install newer iOS on older Macs.

https://lifehacker.com/how-to-install-the-latest-macos-on-an-unsupported-mac-1847802771

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=install+new+ios+on+old+macs

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Nov 27, 2022 18:21:59   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
kcooke wrote:
Thanks Jerry!! I may do this with my 2009 MacBook Pro and 2010 Mac Pro desktop


Just because Legacy Patchers can let you run a newer OS on your older Mac doesn't mean you can run all the latest software. Some apps require hardware in the newer computers. If it's missing, various functions either won't work, will hang, or will yield unpredictable results. That said, if your old software will run on the newer OS, you may find it worth the setup.

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Nov 27, 2022 20:42:11   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
Understood Bill. Im going to install Catalina on both of my older Macs. Mid 2010 Mac Pro and Mid 2009 Macbook Pro.
I will need to get a Metal compatible GPU for the Mac Pro. Im going to do it first on the Macbook pro as it doesnt require any investment other than my time. Thanks


burkphoto wrote:
Just because Legacy Patchers can let you run a newer OS on your older Mac doesn't mean you can run all the latest software. Some apps require hardware in the newer computers. If it's missing, various functions either won't work, will hang, or will yield unpredictable results. That said, if your old software will run on the newer OS, you may find it worth the setup.

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Dec 6, 2022 10:26:35   #
Harry02 Loc: Gardena, CA
 
AFPhoto wrote:
My Grand son (16yo) is visiting me for the holiday weekend. I got him into photography a few years ago by passing down my Canon 50D and a few lenses. He has has taken off like a rocket and is now even the official photographer for his high school. He is currently using a new(ish) but slow windows laptop to edit using his subscription to Light Room Classic and Photoshop. Last night I found a 2013 MacBook Pro that used to be mine several years ago and I cleaned it up and he tried to install his Lightroom Classic but was informed that the operating system -SIERA- was inadequate ( not surprising). Is there anything that we can do short of trashing this computer?
My Grand son (16yo) is visiting me for the holiday... (show quote)


If he has Sierra, he can install High Sierra.
You have to run the HS installer, as it may fix a PCI problem,
Then install HS. Which then may want to make your SSD a APFS disk.
UR install Windows, and be good for 10 more years,
OR even give Linux Mint a run, or Elementary OS a shot.
Don't give up.

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