Let me have it.
Al Vocinq wrote:
This is my first attempt, and I am looking for an honest critique. I won't be offended (as long as it's not personal) and would much rather learn and improve than feel good. The missing toes . . . this was impromptu. She grabbed the hat on a break and started dancing. I didn't have time to frame the shot, etc.
This is your base shot. Now, work on the variations to it by taking many shots. (One benefit of digital.) There are so many directions you can go. One, I suggest, is learning how to lead your model into the shot. In this instance, you discovered that your model enjoys dancing/playing with props. Have your model suggest what props she would enjoy trying out. Have her work out as to what she wants to do and have her repeat it several times. In the first go, let her go through a routine non-stop. Watch her carefully and mentally note which steps/moves could be the best ones. Then have her start and go through segments of those moves. Have her help you in critiquing the images. Keep in mind the phrase, "Let's try..." In time, both she and you will develop a working modeling flow. And the resulting imaging will progress as well. Note, there still be those that will not rise to expectations, but these also provide a basis for improvements.
Too often, it is forgotten that the model is part of the materials for making the images.
You have taken the first step. Now start taking the next steps.
Stephan G wrote:
This is your base shot. Now, work on the variations to it by taking many shots. (One benefit of digital.) There are so many directions you can go. One, I suggest, is learning how to lead your model into the shot. In this instance, you discovered that your model enjoys dancing/playing with props. Have your model suggest what props she would enjoy trying out. Have her work out as to what she wants to do and have her repeat it several times. In the first go, let her go through a routine non-stop. Watch her carefully and mentally note which steps/moves could be the best ones. Then have her start and go through segments of those moves. Have her help you in critiquing the images. Keep in mind the phrase, "Let's try..." In time, both she and you will develop a working modeling flow. And the resulting imaging will progress as well. Note, there still be those that will not rise to expectations, but these also provide a basis for improvements.
Too often, it is forgotten that the model is part of the materials for making the images.
You have taken the first step. Now start taking the next steps.
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Thank you very much for taking the time to give me these valuable pointers. I'm looking forward to implementing them.
Rab-Eye wrote:
But not implant-free. 😫
Yeah, no way around that.
elee950021 wrote:
Al Vocinq!
Nice image! I know this is an impromptu shot but it needs more space on the left which could be easily "cut and pasted" in. And her hair is a little messy but could be fixed with time.
At first with PS Elements using the "Shadows and Hightlights" tool under "Enhance" and "Adjust Lighting." If the image is lightened overall with software, the cast shadow on the right is more prominent and adds a bit to the composition. See the first screen capture.
I then took the liberty to lighten the model overall by again using 10-year old Nikon Capture NX2 with "Nik U Control Points." With this software, one can edit local areas such as face, tummy and legs/feet and not need masks to do so as in PS. See the second screen capture.
Be well! Ed
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Ed,
I truly appreciate the help. I knew there were thing to be done, and I did some. But, I also knew there were things I didn't know. I was right to come here for advice.
Thanks!
dat2ra wrote:
Wow! I wish my early photos had come out that well. I love your model and her playful pose (sans toes), and the shadow which is not easily created and keep the overall exposure good, which you did. I tend to shoot darker images, but agree that this is a bit underexposed, especially her face. Playful or happy moods looks better when shot brighter; save the low exposures for somber or serious moods. That said, I think the light is a bit too harsh for my taste (see how sharp the shadow is in her far leg); did you use bare bulb or have a modifier? Having a catch in her eye is important for connecting with the viewer--especially when the model is looking directly into the camera (viewer). She has a wee one, but you might try a little dodging in PS to bring this out a bit more. Really picky: I'd remove that red spot on her hip.
Overall well done, you two!
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Thank you! I should note that I have been an amateur photographer for 50 years, but never using models, and always just available light. Street photography, discovered compositions, etc. I decided to try something new, so I am learning lighting techniques. I have a very basic setup. I was using an Octobox with a grid and a second speedlight with a plastic softener over it.
Thanks for the specifics, that's what I need. Actually, what I was doing was more in the line of bodyscapes. I had two models, she was one. The other was a black woman with dark skin. My goal was to explore the contrasting skin tones with light and shadows. She did this as I was moving lights, so I am really not sure exactly where they were when this shot was taken. I am going to add a photo of what I was attempting. I would take any and all advice there, too.
Thanks!
RichieC wrote:
She has all the potential you need, now figure out the lighting. It is all about the lighting.
Keep at it.
(What "wilds" of NY?)
I will keep at for sure. I am in the Albany region
That was not a bodyscape! This is what I was working on.
You answered my question about the harsh light--that what grids do: they make the light more directional and hence, less soft. Also, a plastic softener on your Speedlight may not actually be creating softer light. Try a couple of test shots with your modifiers, using a couple of objects such as ceramic lamp bases. Have the shadow of one fall onto the other and look at how wide the "transition" is between the darkest shadow and the fully lit surface behind it.
dat2ra wrote:
You answered my question about the harsh light--that what grids do: they make the light more directional and hence, less soft. Also, a plastic softener on your Speedlight may not actually be creating softer light. Try a couple of test shots with your modifiers, using a couple of objects such as ceramic lamp bases. Have the shadow of one fall onto the other and look at how wide the "transition" is between the darkest shadow and the fully lit surface behind it.
Great ideas, thank you. Both women have told me they want work together again. Next time I will have a better idea of what I am doing (I hope).
I am extremely appreciative of everyone sharing their wisdom and experience. I feel smarter already!
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