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Nov 9, 2012 05:39:02   #
ronzo Loc: New Jersey
 
Sounds like a great trip. I looked up Western Maryland Scenic RR and couldn't find anything about it. How can I get info

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Nov 9, 2012 16:05:08   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
ronzo wrote:
Sounds like a great trip. I looked up Western Maryland Scenic RR and couldn't find anything about it. How can I get info


Try this in Google:
Western Maryland Scenic No 734
then
email Carl Franz the organizer cmfrr@aol.com
may already be sold out this year

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Nov 9, 2012 16:08:05   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
ronzo wrote:
Sounds like a great trip. I looked up Western Maryland Scenic RR and couldn't find anything about it. How can I get info


Try this in Google:
Western Maryland Scenic No 734
then
email Carl Franz the organizer cmfrr@aol.com
may already be sold out this year

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Nov 9, 2012 16:12:00   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
I have ThinkTank Digitla Holster 4.0 which is not insulated but does have rain hood attached. Do you think that if I keep the rain hood mounted with industrial silica gel packs in the bottom that will do the job? Or, should I look for an insurated lunch bag?

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Nov 10, 2012 09:50:48   #
big-guy Loc: Peterborough Ontario Canada
 
Festina Lente wrote:
big-guy wrote:
While everyone is on the right track (pun intended) the goal is to avoid "SUDDEN" temperature changes. Using an insulated lunch bag is wonderful but when you hit the warm temps for any length of time the camera will warm back up only to get the quick freeze when you go back outside. I would recommend using a cooler pack (those frozen containers of blue goo that don't leak) inside your lunch bag, wrapped with a small towel to prevent patch freezing, to keep the temp cold. At the end of the day it's OK to let the camera warm up slowly Then start all over the next day. This method has been invaluable to me on many occasions.

For those in the opposite temperature spectrum, swap with a warm goo pack.

Looking forward to some great photos. Good luck.
While everyone is on the right track (pun intended... (show quote)

The key is isolation from the change in relative humidity when going inside from outside AND managing a slow temperature change.
That is why I recommend using an insulated bag with a sealed compartment.

But I do NOT recommend using cooler packs.
Condensation may occur when taking a cold camera into a warm environment; a cooler pack will just prolong the duration of this possibility.

When in the train car you may wish to change your battery, memory card, view images, etc. Once the camera warms up a bit it can be removed form the bag and you can take care of these normal things.

Bottom-line: If the camera is allowed to warm up slowly while in a sealed bag, everything should be fine.
quote=big-guy While everyone is on the right trac... (show quote)


I think that is what I said sans pulling the camera out in the train car. In these situations I just leave it alone till days end. To change a battery or card you can leave the camera in the bag and do the quick change. Emphasis on "quick" As to perusing your photos, save that for days end and enjoy the sights. Give your equipment a break.

Again, this is just my method for these extreme situations. YMMV

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Nov 10, 2012 10:52:23   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
BboH wrote:
I have ThinkTank Digitla Holster 4.0 which is not insulated but does have rain hood attached. Do you think that if I keep the rain hood mounted with industrial silica gel packs in the bottom that will do the job? Or, should I look for an insurated lunch bag?


Why not use both could not hurt!

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Nov 10, 2012 12:29:01   #
dfchief7
 
The best thing you can get is a insulated small cooler that is big enough to fit your camera bag in. Then you can keep your camera bag in it summer and winter. It keeps the heat off the camera in the summer and keeps it at normal temp in the winter. Have been doing this for 25 yrs.
Do not get the cheap foam coolers, get a hard plastic one.
I have been doing beach weddings and winter shots like this for years. Just carry a lens cleaning cloth for the lens in a pocket.

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Nov 12, 2012 11:15:53   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
mcveed wrote:
Well, you probably have more advice than you wanted. All you need to do is stop condensation from the air in a warm humid area from forming on your cold camera. You can do this in several ways: don't let your camera get cold; isolate your cold camera from the humid air or leave your camera in the cold. I would put my camera and lens in a large zip lock bag and only take it out of the bag when outside then return it to the bag before coming back inside. When the shoot if over let the camera warm up fully before opening the bag to download pictures. Change cards and batteries outside.
Well, you probably have more advice than you wante... (show quote)
A good summary! :thumbup:

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Nov 12, 2012 11:21:02   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
BboH wrote:
I have ThinkTank Digitla Holster 4.0 which is not insulated but does have rain hood attached. Do you think that if I keep the rain hood mounted with industrial silica gel packs in the bottom that will do the job? Or, should I look for an insurated lunch bag?

Go with the "lunch bag." You need something that will not allow any warm air to contact the cold camera.

The silica gel will just be an ineffective dead weight as they are designed for longer term storage and need to re "refreshed" periodically to be effective for long term storage.
They adsorb moisture slowly. Your cold camera can condense humidity in a matter of seconds. Leave the silica gel packs at home,

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Nov 12, 2012 17:36:27   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
Some timely information that echos what most have posted here:

http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/camera-equipment-tips-in-low-temperatures/

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Nov 12, 2012 18:03:07   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
BboH wrote:
Going on "Winter Photo Freight Specials" 1/12 and 1/13/13 on the Western Maryland Scenic RR which runs from Cumberland, MD to Frostburg, MD - a distance of 16 miles one way. On each day, to quote, "Both trips will feature at least 20 photo runbys." Leave 7:30AM, back 4:45PM which means there is going to be a heck of a lot of in and out of the warm car into the cold weather.

Read most of the threads about cameras and cold however found none dealing with these circumstances - mainly, my words - what to do when you go out for the day and what to do when you come in for the day - saw nothing dealing with the constant in and out.

I've done the leave and return for the day without doing anything special and have had no difficulties - but nothing like this. Any suggestions/tips/thoughts? Average tempreture is in the range of 20-40 degrees farenheight

I'll be using the D800 and Nikon's 28-300 for both still and movies
Going on "Winter Photo Freight Specials"... (show quote)


http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/camera-equipment-tips-in-low-temperatures/

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Nov 16, 2012 09:16:48   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Just want to say thanks to all - got some great insights and direction. My concerns are put to rest - again, thanks
Bob

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