I have a Greenpower BL800 60 volt 18ah scooter and would like to convert to lithium batteries. Has any Hogger gone this route? Any resources/ links etc would be much appreciated.
braindamage wrote:
I have a Greenpower BL800 60 volt 18ah scooter and would like to convert to lithium batteries. Has any Hogger gone this route? Any resources/ links etc would be much appreciated.
Just curious: Why convert? Never mind the question.
I found this on google
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQbNw1hUmDs
40% of the lead acid/gel. up to 20% performance improvement. Not affected by the British winter!
Lead acid batteries are old reliable technologies , 100 % recyclable , even the old acid .If its not a issue of going farther , i would not change .
Lithium batteries are significantly more expensive than the ones but do give much better. performance. I work at Batteries Plus Bulbs in Chandler, AZ. We sell an AGM battery for some Harley Davidson motorcycles for $200.00. The equivalent in a lithium battery is $350.00. The battery shown in the video Manglesphoto found is not truly a sealed lead acid battery. It is AGM & stands for Absorbed Glass Mat. The acid is absorbed into fiberglass mats during manufacture essentially turning the battery into a dry cell. Makes the battery much more shake, vibration, & temperature resistant. I’m with agillot. AGM is much more reliable.
Hi Nick thanks for your response. I have located a 60volt 18ah Lithium for 299 English. My concerns are with wiring/connectors etc.
braindamage wrote:
Hi Nick thanks for your response. I have located a 60volt 18ah Lithium for 299 English. My concerns are with wiring/connectors etc.
You should be concerned with charging too. Charger for AGM and Lithium are not the same.
Yeah it comes with a lithium charger included.
nicksr1125 wrote:
Lithium batteries are significantly more expensive than the ones but do give much better. performance. I work at Batteries Plus Bulbs in Chandler, AZ. We sell an AGM battery for some Harley Davidson motorcycles for $200.00. The equivalent in a lithium battery is $350.00. The battery shown in the video Manglesphoto found is not truly a sealed lead acid battery. It is AGM & stands for Absorbed Glass Mat. The acid is absorbed into fiberglass mats during manufacture essentially turning the battery into a dry cell. Makes the battery much more shake, vibration, & temperature resistant. I’m with agillot. AGM is much more reliable.
Lithium batteries are significantly more expensive... (
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My 2018 Grand Caravan came with an AGM battery Why I don't know but a replacement was close to $300 in 2020 the good thing is the warranty is replacement at no charge for the first three years , mine failed almost two years to the day, this summer.
I don't see any problem with the wiring but the connectors may be different.
Lithium is way better simply because it gives the 'rider' 100% power to the end.
Lead acid batteries slowly drop off...anyone using an old golf cart knows what I mean.
The wiring should be the same...just match the voltage...amp hours are not a consideration...just make sure you get a controller that can handle the load...and that's it. have fun!
Smudgey
Loc: Ohio, Calif, Now Arizona
I don't know about scooters, but I switched from AGM to Lithium 2 years ago in my little RV and I wish I had done it sooner. When I pull into a camp sight, I pull out the solar collector plug it into the trailer and the battery rarely go's dead like the AGM did. I can put on a DVD or turn on the lights to read, or charge my phone and run my refrigerator and the next morning the battery will be about 3/4 down and fully recharges back up by noon. I do carry a generator for rainey days which is not often in AZ. Switching to a Lithium batterey is the single best change I made in my RV.
BBurns
Loc: South Bay, California
braindamage wrote:
Hi Nick thanks for your response. I have located a 60volt 18ah Lithium for 299 English. My concerns are with wiring/connectors etc.
100% true. As BebuLamar stated, "You should be concerned with charging too. Charger for AGM and Lithium are not the same.'
LiPo batteries require special circuitry to prevent over & under charging as well as discharging. Good chargers babysit the Lipo to prevent many of these issues.
NOT heeding this can cause a LiPo to explode into flames. The results can cause loss of home or worse yet, your life.
I am not saying the conversion can't be done, but there is much more to be aware of and consider than just finding some cells that will work.
A good quality AGM is a much better option.
braindamage wrote:
Hi Nick thanks for your response. I have located a 60volt 18ah Lithium for 299 English. My concerns are with wiring/connectors etc.
Connections shouldn’t be a problem. They should be the same as what you have now. Good luck with your conversion.
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