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Sep 21, 2022 16:31:35   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Biden and the Dems take over the government and the Dow is down over 6,500 points while the country suffers.

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Sep 21, 2022 16:37:44   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Biden and the Dems take over the government and the Dow is down over 6,500 points while the country suffers.


Gee with fed interest rates going up I wonder why . Duh !

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Sep 21, 2022 16:56:54   #
nathanweddings
 
Trump's fault.

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Sep 21, 2022 18:04:36   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DennyT wrote:
Gee with fed interest rates going up I wonder why . Duh !


Fed rates are going to keep going up as Biden and the Democrats won't stop spending, economists from both the Clinton and Obama administrations are attributing much of the inflation to Biden's spending. As the Fed is trying to tighten and slow economic activity Biden and the Dems just can't help themselves.... It's the first real test of the limits of MMT, and it is not going well.

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Sep 21, 2022 19:16:39   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Biden and the Dems take over the government and the Dow is down over 6,500 points while the country suffers.


More proof of Biden's great economy.

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Sep 21, 2022 23:48:44   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
Gee with fed interest rates going up I wonder why . Duh !


Yup, caused by Biden.

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Sep 22, 2022 05:54:34   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Fed rates are going to keep going up as Biden and the Democrats won't stop spending, economists from both the Clinton and Obama administrations are attributing much of the inflation to Biden's spending. As the Fed is trying to tighten and slow economic activity Biden and the Dems just can't help themselves.... It's the first real test of the limits of MMT, and it is not going well.

Only the arty it of power gives a whit about spending--including Republicans. When Republicans are in power, they spend just as freely. That is why we have frown to rely on monetary policy for price stability as both parties have abandoned fiscal policy.

When Republicans are back n power, deficits will be OK (as Cheny famously said--"They don't matter"--and Democrats will be complaining about it.

Same as it ever was.

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Sep 22, 2022 06:32:48   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Bazbo wrote:
Only the arty it of power gives a whit about spending--including Republicans. When Republicans are in power, they spend just as freely. That is why we have frown to rely on monetary policy for price stability as both parties have abandoned fiscal policy.

When Republicans are back n power, deficits will be OK (as Cheny famously said--"They don't matter"--and Democrats will be complaining about it.

Same as it ever was.


That was never more so true than under Trump, I agree, but at the same time I did not see the wreckless spending even under Trump that we are witnessing under Biden and for what? Do you actually think that his last C***d spending and the so called "Deficit Reduction Act" was necessary and will save the planet as he claims?

The democrats won't stop, it is not in their nature, your party has gone full blown loco with their emphasis on "Equity" and "Climate".

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Sep 22, 2022 08:40:26   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Bazbo wrote:
Only the arty it of power gives a whit about spending--including Republicans. When Republicans are in power, they spend just as freely. That is why we have frown to rely on monetary policy for price stability as both parties have abandoned fiscal policy.

When Republicans are back n power, deficits will be OK (as Cheny famously said--"They don't matter"--and I’m Democrats will be complaining about it.

Same as it ever was.



Exactly right.

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Sep 22, 2022 08:42:38   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
If one merely looks at a time line of the market you would quickly see the 6500 loss started at same time fed started raising rates .
Simple rates are high investors move to bonds .

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Sep 22, 2022 09:00:17   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DennyT wrote:
If one merely looks at a time line of the market you would quickly see the 6500 loss started at same time fed started raising rates .
Simple rates are high investors move to bonds .


And..... Why Pray Tell is the Fed raising rates? You are arguing a red herring. You are trying to identify the remedy as the causation.... You are missing the mark by a long shot Denny.

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Sep 22, 2022 09:16:46   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
And..... Why Pray Tell is the Fed raising rates? You are arguing a red herring. You are trying to identify the remedy as the causation.... You are missing the mark by a long shot Denny.



You are , sir, are blinded by the glare of partisan politics.

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Sep 22, 2022 09:22:24   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DennyT wrote:
You are , sir, are blinded by the glare of partisan politics.


And you are just blind.

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Sep 22, 2022 10:02:47   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Biden and the Dems take over the government and the Dow is down over 6,500 points while the country suffers.


Biden has succeeded in erasing another Trump accomplishment of Stock Market gains.

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Sep 22, 2022 10:41:57   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Biden has succeeded in erasing another Trump accomplishment of Stock Market gains.


The worst is yet to come... 2023 is going to be a very difficult year. What is amazing to me is that both the Fed and CBO are projecting anemic growth for several years out, how is it that so few have taken note.

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