For All of You That Have, or Want to.. (Page 3): The weigh of the camera is a feature. I prefer heavy camera while I don't like large camera. I like the camera which has high density.

BebuLamar

rehess wrote:

but you can’t exclude weight - it truly is an issu... (show quote)

The weigh of the camera is a feature. I prefer heavy camera while I don't like large camera. I like the camera which has high density.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Photographic qualities would be accurate ISO settings, accurate shutter speed settings, accurate aperture settings, and accurate focus indication. Things that are pertinent to making a photograph, or at least the initial capture.
--Bob

User ID wrote:

Would you please explain or define "photographic draw". Its clear that lack of same is unraveling the "discussion".

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

A very simple matter of physics. More mass would be more stable.
--Bob

BebuLamar wrote:

The weigh of the camera is a feature. I prefer heavy camera while I don't like large camera. I like the camera which has high density.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

If you want to be a better photographer, there are two things you must do above all others: buy a mirrorless camera and use it.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

rmalarz wrote:

Photographic qualities would be accurate ISO settings, accurate shutter speed settings, accurate aperture settings, and accurate focus indication. Things that are pertinent to making a photograph, or at least the initial capture.
--Bob

If the camera is not there, there will be no photograph to worry about the settings of;
I am a follower of "Weegee" Fellig - the most important part of his aphorism is "be there".

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

rmalarz wrote:

A very simple matter of physics. More mass would be more stable.
--Bob

and more to lug.

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

rmalarz wrote:

What is the photographic reason for the desire to have a mirrorless camera? I'm just curious as to what is the attraction. I'm looking at the photographic draw for these cameras.
--Bob

Dear Hoggers: I am not sure why people want to buy a mirrorless. Supposedly it is the latest and greatest. I don’t believe that. Years ago, I had (still do) a Canon AE-1. I was told that the day I bought it I would shoot the best photographs ever!
NOPE! NOT TRUE! ALL LIES
After a few years I learned photography. Then an upgrade to Canon EOS Rebel 2000. I was told that the will take my photos to a new level. Wait for it….

ALL LIES! NOPE! NADA!

After a few years, and relearning photography, my photographs showed it.

Eventually I had made a great deal of overtime money. So I bought a Canon 5D Mark II. It took me a little while to relearn everything. I just bought a Mark IV. I’m still learning.
I have a friend who is drooling over an R3. That nice. But it will be a while before I make the plunge. Mirrorless may be better and it may not be. As for buying a beast like that, the price tag would impress many but not me.
I don’t think I’ll make a try unless it is handed to me to evaluate. That won’t happen any time soon

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Mirrorless cameras through and through are miles ahead of DSLRs these days. That goes even for the most affordable mirrorless cameras. It’s night and day, truly. The only people who think a DSLRinosaur can still be mentioned as comparable to a MILC is someone who doesn't have a mirrorless camera.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Paul, in what specific ways are they mikes ahead?
—Bob

CHG_CANON wrote:

Mirrorless cameras through and through are miles ahead of DSLRs these days. That goes even for the most affordable mirrorless cameras. It’s night and day, truly. The only people who think a DSLRinosaur can still be mentioned as comparable to a MILC is someone who doesn't have a mirrorless camera.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

rmalarz wrote:

In which way are the lenses better?
--Bob

Not all lenses, but then there's no way in which DSLR lenses are better. Read my original post: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-752473-1.html#13440932

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

rmalarz wrote:

Paul, in what specific ways are they mikes ahead?
—Bob

You make it seem like you don't read my posts, and that hurts my feelings.

Why do I love mirrorless? Let me count the ways:

1. Smaller body by removing the space needed for that yesteryear flapping mirror.
2. IBIS that turns every lens into a stabilized lens, even the golden oldies of the manual focus, pre-electronic ages.
3. EVF with shimmering highlights of the plane of focus.
4. Histogram available for display in electronic view finder (EVF).
5. Detailed 10x zoom in EVF.
6. Silent (not a single noise) shutter.
7. Extreme frames per second, 20+.
8. Image playback in EVF for review when LCD impossible to see in bright light.
9. Image playback at 10x zoom in EVF.
10. Sharper mirrorless lens designs.
11. More ultra fast lenses as sharp wide open as any stepped down DSLR lens ever.
12. One digital platform supporting portfolio of legacy DSLR lenses, legacy SLR lenses and modern mirrorless lenses.
13. Autofocus beyond f/8 for extended configurations.
14. Platform for any / all ongoing technology advancements in digital photography.
15. EVF that displays the results of the image before shooting.
16. EVF that allows for ad hoc updates like boosting the ISO for a brighter focus view, then restore ISO and shoot, without even lowering the camera from a shooting position.
17. Entire frame available for selective AF position.

I'm sure I missed probably several others.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

CHG_CANON wrote:

If you want to be a better photographer, there are two things you must do above all others: buy a mirrorless camera and use it.

NO! Buy a high end point 'n shoot, put it on auto and use it. Concentrate on composition and light. There are more than enough perfectly exposed photos that are boring.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

I did read it. You made some good points.
—Bob

Ysarex wrote:

Not all lenses, but then there's no way in which DSLR lenses are better. Read my original post: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-752473-1.html#13440932

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

CHG_CANON wrote:

Mirrorless cameras through and through are miles ahead of DSLRs these days. That goes even for the most affordable mirrorless cameras. It’s night and day, truly. The only people who think a DSLRinosaur can still be mentioned as comparable to a MILC is someone who doesn't have a mirrorless camera.

If none of those 17 things are important to me, it does make them comparable.....

They're cameras.
They take pictures.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

There are three classes of photographers: those that see the importance of mirrorless cameras and everyone else.