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Sep 17, 2022 00:35:54   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
rehess wrote:
But any issue at home could be a problem

Yes. It is an advantage of cloud storage in that it’s not physically located at your house.

To mitigate that issue with physical drives, you need two, and you keep one of them at work and swap it with the other one at home once a week.

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Sep 17, 2022 01:13:07   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
JD750 wrote:
Yes. It is an advantage of cloud storage in that it’s not physically located at your house.

To mitigate that issue with physical drives, you need two, and you keep one of them at work and swap it with the other one at home once a week.

That assumes you still have a place of employment, where you can keep things {I happen to be retired}

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Sep 17, 2022 07:59:19   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rehess wrote:
That assumes you still have a place of employment, where you can keep things {I happen to be retired}

Family or neighbor's house?

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Sep 17, 2022 11:26:48   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
rehess wrote:
That assumes you still have a place of employment, where you can keep things {I happen to be retired}


If you have decent internet access, a major cloud provider is by far the best and most robust disaster recovery storage you can possibly implement.

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Sep 17, 2022 13:58:57   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
rehess wrote:
That assumes you still have a place of employment, where you can keep things {I happen to be retired}

Well you might have a friend or relative you visit frequently, another photographer you know, or a safe deposit box. Any of those could suffice.

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Sep 17, 2022 14:02:03   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
TriX wrote:
If you have decent internet access, a major cloud provider is by far the best and most robust disaster recovery storage you can possibly implement.


There are various systems that are robust and cloud storage is one of them. However “best” is a term that means different things to different people.?

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Sep 17, 2022 14:13:46   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JD750 wrote:
There are various systems that are robust and cloud storage is one of them. However “best” is a term that means different things to different people.?



Best in their opinion.....

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Sep 17, 2022 14:32:08   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
There are various systems that are robust and cloud storage is one of them. However “best” is a term that means different things to different people.?


Nope, it really is “best”. No other off site strategy can combine multiple copies of your data at 3-5 separate geographic locations for geographic redundancy with the primary copy online at all times, closest to you to reduce latency and increase speed. Then there are the hardened data centers, professionally managed, with redundant power, servers, networking and storage.and finally, real-time backup (nothing lost between those weekly trips to the bank) and the ability to restore or download data from anywhere with a internet connection.

What do you have that’s as good or better?

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Sep 17, 2022 15:06:56   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JohnBoy5562 wrote:
I don't think the iPhone 7 got iOS 16 but they did release a update for iOS 15 the day 16 came out.


Yeah, I did the update. It's just time to upgrade. There's little sense in putting a $50 battery in a phone that is only worth $70 in trade.

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Sep 17, 2022 15:15:33   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yeah, I did the update. It's just time to upgrade. There's little sense in putting a $50 battery in a phone that is only worth $70 in trade.

I got $55 from T-Mobile for my iPhone 8.
I was glad to get anything; in the past I’ve tended to toss them, although I did use one as a P&S camera {downloading via Wi-Fi} once.

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Sep 17, 2022 15:30:52   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rehess wrote:
I got $55 from T-Mobile for my iPhone 8.
I was glad to get anything; in the past I’ve tended to toss them, although I did use one as a P&S camera {downloading via Wi-Fi} once.


Apple has a trade-in calculator on their site. My iPhone 7 Plus is valued at $70. But that's probably less than some other places would pay. Whatever, I've had it since January, 2017. It is still intact, but I just want the new cameras in the 14 Pro. I don't want the Pro Max because it's too big. I'm finally used to the 7 Plus size, which is about the same physical size as the 14 Pro. But the 14 Pro has more usable screen real estate...

I used to give my old phones to my daughter, but she outgrew the desire to take hand-me-downs. She has a cute little iPhone SE2 in [Product] Red color.

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Sep 17, 2022 17:29:07   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Doing fine up here on cloud nine
All these files, none of them mine

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Sep 17, 2022 19:06:52   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Doing fine up here on cloud nine
All these files, none of them mine


👍👍

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Sep 17, 2022 20:44:47   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Sorry, late to the party. Been busy.

As noted elsewhere above, backup should be done on ALL the files that would cause you pain if they disappeared. This is a photo forum, but in addition to your photos, backup should include your email, word processing, program configuration files, everything of any importance. Most people use their computers for more than one thing.

Backup requires Duplication, Distribution, and Maintenance. The duplication is done by making copies of your files on different media. At present, external drives are probably the best media for local backup. There is some talk of M-disks, but assertions that they will last 1000 years are nonsense. Technology changes with time and in 50 years there's a very good chance you will not be able to read an M-disk you write today. That's where Maintenance comes into play. As technology changes, you have to maintain your data by copying them onto modern media. Not just copy, but verify.

Distribution is the 'copy somewhere else'. Yes, you can keep another drive at a friend's house, a relative's house, at work, or in the bank. Synchronization of such drives generally requires physical movement of the drive to your computer, copying new stuff, then returning the drive to the off-site location. These days, you may have to worry about not only local disasters, but regional ones. Large scale flooding. Large wildfires. A regional disaster can cover your off-site location if it's nearby. If it's not nearby, synchronization will be more of a problem. Don't depend on fire-safe vaults or containers. There is no such thing. The best you can do is fire-resistant. Immersing a box into a high temperature environment for long enough will overcome any resistance to fire. That includes your bank.

The best distribution solution is the cloud. It's accessible online, the storage media are maintained by professionals, and they also duplicate your data. Copies of your data are stored in locations separated by large distances, maybe even by continents. The worst backup solution for restoration is the cloud. Online is slow compared to local drives. Some cloud providers will send you a disk with your data but that takes a few days.

The best solution is to use both local storage and cloud storage. The local storage is primary. If you need to restore a file it takes minutes, or seconds. The cloud storage is secondary. If you need to restore a file it takes minutes to hours, depending on the size of the data you need to transmit. Maybe even days for really large piles of data.

Local storage is convenient. Cloud storage is safe. Local storage is for BooBoos. Cloud storage is for disasters. Use both.

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