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Sep 18, 2022 13:59:10   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
That goes for both parties.


Totally agree

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Sep 18, 2022 14:00:11   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
Very true. The only trouble today is the high degree of infection of the Republican Party by trump. That will take a few e******n cycles to cure.


Maybe if the i***ts in here and the media would stop giving Trump so much air time and attention, the Republican's would be considering other candidates.

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Sep 18, 2022 14:13:27   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Maybe if the i***ts in here and the media would stop giving Trump so much air time and attention, the Republican's would be considering other candidates.



I have no problem , it is the news .
And most important it is news about a president . That pretty important in america I would think

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Sep 18, 2022 14:17:29   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
I have no problem , it is the news .
And most important it is news about a president . That pretty important in america I would think


No, if they would just shut the hell up about Trump, then he would lose even more support. The more they go after trump the more they will fight for him. Trump is the only reason the Lefty media is somewhat surviving, talking about Trump makes them money.

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Sep 18, 2022 14:20:38   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
DennyT wrote:
Very true. The only trouble today is the high degree of infection of the Republican Party by trump. That will take a few e******n cycles to cure.

DeSantis sure isn’t the answer. Now we see he lied to immigrants to get them on a plane in Texas.


Hypocrite

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Sep 18, 2022 14:24:35   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
scooter1 wrote:
Hypocrite


??? Explain please

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Sep 18, 2022 14:26:41   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
Very true. The only trouble today is the high degree of infection of the Republican Party by trump. That will take a few e******n cycles to cure.

DeSantis sure isn’t the answer. Now we see he lied to immigrants to get them on a plane in Texas.


Where is your evidence that DeSantis lied to immigrants to get them on the plane IN TEXAS???? Or anywhere for that matter? Was DeSantis in Texas at the airport?

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Sep 18, 2022 14:42:27   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Where is your evidence that DeSantis lied to immigrants to get them on the plane IN TEXAS???? Or anywhere for that matter? Was DeSantis in Texas at the airport?


You right he probably didn’t do it “ personally “ but her bears responsibility dosent he.?? Interesting though that we hear no denial of the report .

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Sep 18, 2022 14:44:18   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
You right he probably didn’t do it “ personally “ but her bears responsibility dosent he.?? Interesting though that we hear no denial of the report .


But do you have actual evidence that DeSantis lied to these immigrants?

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Sep 18, 2022 15:02:19   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
But do you have actual evidence that DeSantis lied to these immigrants?


Can you read ??

“””You right he probably didn’t do it “ personally”””

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Sep 18, 2022 15:03:45   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
Can you read ??

“””You right he probably didn’t do it “ personally”””


Didn't do what personally?

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Sep 19, 2022 17:49:21   #
jcboy3
 
I'm sure many of them would welcome the opportunity. I would. Give me a big stick and I'll have at him.

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Sep 21, 2022 17:49:51   #
cwp3420
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"New Hampshire’s Republican primary on Tuesday confirmed the trend we have seen all year long: the narrow dominance of populist, MAGA elements within the GOP. That fact demonstrates that only one Republican could deny Donald Trump the party’s 2024 p**********l nomination: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Granite State v**ers had a variety of options to choose from, with strong, establishment-backed conservatives running in races for the state’s Senate seat and both House seats. In all three cases, Republicans chose the Trumpiest candidate. None had the former president’s blessing, but all nonetheless carried his implicit imprimatur as they faithfully imitated his angry style and embraced his views on issues from immigration to e******n denialism. The verdict, as disappointing as it is to the party establishment, merely echoes similar decisions by v**ers across the nation.

At first blush, this might be depressing for Republicans who think it’s time to move on from Trump. It doesn’t seem to matter if the person backed by the old guard can spend millions of her own dollars, as Arizona’s gubernatorial hopeful Karrin Taylor Robson did(and it doesn’t help that Democrats are trying to boost Trump-aligned candidates). Prior statewide office doesn’t seem to help, as former Wisconsin lieutenant governor Rebecca Kleefisch discovered in her bid for governor. Even prior service in the Trump administration doesn’t automatically confer the MAGA mantle, as New Hampshire congressional candidate Matt Mowers found Tuesday night. Not every ultra-Trumpy candidate has won, but enough have that the party’s drift is unmistakable.

Still, this does not mean Trump’s renomination is assured. The party’s v**ers seem willing to entertain someone else, so long as that person has a similar populist emphasis and pugnacious style. That’s what recent data from the Republican polling firm Echelon Insights suggests.

Echelon’s August poll found that despite sky-high approval ratings, only 65 percent of GOP and GOP-leaning v**ers want Trump to run again. Trump’s support drops the deeper one digs. Only 59 percent say they would definitely or probably back Trump in a primary if he did run, and he would win only 46 percent in a contested primary that included DeSantis and former vice president Mike Pence. In fact, 44 percent say they would v**e for DeSantis, Pence or one of two noted Trump critics, Rep. Liz Cheney and Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan. That’s effectively a tie, before any of Trump’s potential opponents have even started to campaign against him.

That might confound experts if they haven’t been following the intra-GOP factions very closely. Party v**ers now say 48 to 41 that they are likelier to be “party-first Republicans” than “Trump-first Republicans.” Party-first Republicans hold much more negative views of Trump than the other cohort, and they are even more likely to oppose him in a hypothetical matchup. Trump notably gets 77 percent of Trump-first Republicans’ support in a hypothetical race with DeSantis and others, but only 30 percent among party-firsters. And 57 percent of party-firsters already oppose Trump’s renomination.

This is encouraging news that shows the GOP might not be solely loyal to the “mayor of Mar-a-Lago.” The data also show why DeSantis is likely the only person who can dethrone Trump.

DeSantis is the only potential opponent who has substantial support from both the “party-first” and “Trump-first” wings of the party (he receives 13 percent of Trump-firsters and 33 percent of party-firsters). Pence and Cheney appeal to only 3 percent of Trump-firsters, and their weak standing with the MAGA base due to their rhetoric on the J*** 6 r**ts suggests they can’t really improve upon that.

DeSantis’s strength with Trump-first Republicans becomes more obvious after removing Trump from the mix entirely. DeSantis receives 41 percent in a 2024 field without Trump, leading his closest competitors by 30 points. He does about as well among Trump-firsters (47 percent) as with party-firsters (41 percent). Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, by contrast, does much better with Trumpists, while Pence breaks double digits only with party-firsters. Eleven percent of party-firsters prefer Cheney, Hogan, Utah Sen. Mitt Romney or former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley; only 2 percent of Trump-firsters agree.

It’s not hard to figure out why DeSantis has such credibility among the Trumpy set. His pugnacious style in responding to media criticism endears him to those who want a fighter. His willingness to talk about culture war topics such as critical race theory or “woke corporations” is music to the ears of many populists. And his other positions — pro-life, pro-tax cut, traditional foreign policy views — make party-firsters like him, too.
Republican revere the American Founding and surely recall the Revolutionary War adage: United we stand, divided we fall. DeSantis’s unique ability to unite the party’s warring wings points a way to end the GOP civil war and take the fight home to the Democrats."

Henry Osen
"New Hampshire’s Republican primary on Tuesda... (show quote)


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