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Sep 14, 2022 21:30:40   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Here goes your defund the police

Start at the 5:28 min mark
https://youtu.be/AopEVXAH-_g



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Sep 14, 2022 21:45:26   #
Triple G
 
soba1 wrote:
Here goes your defund the police


Iā€™m surprised that youā€™d post without checking.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/illinois-safe-t-act-non-detainable-crime/

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Sep 14, 2022 21:49:56   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
Triple G wrote:
Iā€™m surprised that youā€™d post without checking.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/illinois-safe-t-act-non-detainable-crime/



That's called misinformation... which is the norm for extremist republicans who follow Chump.

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Sep 14, 2022 22:05:43   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
Triple G wrote:
Iā€™m surprised that youā€™d post without checking.

Soba sometimes posts what he believes...regardless of the veracity of the source.

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Sep 14, 2022 22:19:06   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
We will see come Jan 1 2023

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Sep 14, 2022 22:27:05   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Start at the 5:28 min mark
https://youtu.be/AopEVXAH-_g

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Sep 15, 2022 07:35:10   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
That's called misinformation... which is the norm for extremist republicans who follow Chump.


And of course Democrats would never dream of spreading misinformation.šŸ¤£

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Sep 15, 2022 08:07:23   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
JRiepe wrote:
And of course Democrats would never dream of spreading misinformation.šŸ¤£


Want to count all the misinformation coming from the Republicans since Chump ran for office and compare that to the numbers from the Democrats?

It seems to be intentional when coming from the right.

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Sep 15, 2022 10:28:44   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Want to count all the misinformation coming from the Republicans since Chump ran for office and compare that to the numbers from the Democrats?

It seems to be intentional when coming from the right.


WHAT, and STUPIDITY when coming from he Left? Is that what you are saying? The Democrats have lied their asses off about every negative aspect of Biden's Presidency. Millions of i*****l a***ns coming across the border while the Democrats tell us the border is secure. Even Senator Manchin just yesterday said that was a LIE. Yet the rank and file Democrats believe all is well. America is undergoing inflation yet the Democrats lie and tell us all is well. Gas goes up $3.00 and Biden tells us he can't do anything to stop the increase. It comes down a dollar and the stupid ass takes a bow.

Come on little boo hoo, even you should be able to agree the Democrats are pissing all over Americans and it ain't rain. Only Democrats are stupid enough to believe it is.

Dennis

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Sep 15, 2022 12:39:26   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Want to count all the misinformation coming from the Republicans since Chump ran for office and compare that to the numbers from the Democrats?

It seems to be intentional when coming from the right.


Research it for yourself go beyond Snopes.

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Sep 15, 2022 21:22:37   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
soba1 wrote:
Research it for yourself go beyond Snopes.


You don't like Snopes?
Factcheck.org not to your liking?

You'd rather everyone follow the Enquirer? Maybe "T***h Social"? (That's a laugh!)

It's agreed that some stretching of the t***h comes from both sides of the aisle but, the right doesn't want to KNOW the t***h ... let alone SPEAK the t***h lately.

Ya'll want to follow the Pied Piper... even though you know he's going to lead you over the cliff.

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Sep 16, 2022 11:40:30   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
soba1 wrote:
Research it for yourself go beyond Snopes.


Why don't you research it and explain to us that are too simple, how and why Snopes is wrong?

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Sep 16, 2022 13:09:15   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
Why don't you research it and explain to us that are too simple, how and why Snopes is wrong?


You do have the, too simple, down correctly princess. That is a given.

Dennis

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Sep 16, 2022 16:48:32   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
thom w wrote:
Why don't you research it and explain to us that are too simple, how and why Snopes is wrong?


With a legitimate news story watch the news overview of the law start at the 3min mark watch the brief news clip from there

https://youtu.be/tiw-sxyvgUw

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Sep 16, 2022 19:45:40   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
thom w wrote:
Why don't you research it and explain to us that are too simple, how and why Snopes is wrong?


Yup, I did. In this case, you are correct.

BUT! Unlike you, claiming that it is an effort to "defund the police", I see it differently and thereby is your misinformation... from the extremist far right.

Bail serves as collateral to ensure that the defendant appears in court for their trial.

ā€œIn the current system, the amount of money someone has determines whether they can be released ā€“ not whether they pose a threat to someone else or are likely to flee prosecution.ā€

Yes, an Illinois law eliminates cash bail as of January 2023.

However, the law does not mean all detainees are automatically released. Authorities can still detain people who are dangers to public safety, flight risks or repeat offenders.



Perhaps, you can see the reasoning behind this law with the following two cases...

A man charged in a fatal shooting in Wisconsin has been released on $10,000 bail that was initially set at $500,000.

Karvel Freeman, 35, of Madison, was released from the jail in La Crosse County where he's charged with party to first-degree homicide and party to second-degree recklessly endangering safety.


https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/tennessee/articles/2022-08-16/homicide-defendant-released-on-10-000-bail-in-wisconsin

Then, there is this one... IN TEXAS NO LESS!

About 80 percent are mothers, most single moms like Maranda Oā€™Donnell, whose arrest in Harris County, Texas, led to one of the most significant legal challenges to the bail system. Her story shows how an arrest can push a person teetering on stability over the edge.

Oā€™Donnell was pulled over driving to see her then 4-year-old daughter and didnā€™t have a valid license. Unable to pay bail, she spent two days in jail.

Earlier this year, an appeals court affirmed that the countyā€™s bail system violated Oā€™Donnellā€™s and other plaintiffsā€™ rights to due process and equal protection.

Susanne Pringle, interim executive director of the Texas Fair Defense Project, a nonprofit thatā€™s part of the lawsuit, says those two days likely cost Oā€™Donnell a new waitressing job and jeopardized custody of her child.


ā€œ[Bail] is not supposed to be a punishment. Itā€™s not supposed to be used as a way to detain someone pretrial ā€¦ but when you set bonds that high and for someone who is being arrested for something that is clearly a poverty offense, thatā€™s what it isā€”itā€™s a detention order,ā€ Pringle says.

https://msmagazine.com/2020/05/08/held-for-ransom-dismantling-the-unjust-cash-bail-system/

None of this pertains to "defunding the police"

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