daldds Loc: NYC

Maybe this should be in the photo critique or main photography section. Possibly both.
There is a discussion today concerning the difference between phone and camera images taken under the same good conditions. If I interpret them correctly, there seems to be a general agreement that the newer phones take very nice shots unless conditions are stressful for the phone…low light, sports action, etc. I think what must be included are the operators goals for the day of shooting when discussing and comparing images.
Personally, I have far more confidence in being able to grab a shot with my camera set on manual, the ISO on auto, and the shutter at 1/250 and f/stop at 5.6. I have an iPhone 11, and can't do that. (Would I be able to with a 13… I don't know.)
I posted the first of these two images yesterday..."Damp dawn." I was able to change the ISO with the flick of my thumb while looking through the viewfinder to get the lighting conditions you see. Maybe 1 second at the most.
When I posted the shot on IG, one of my photographer buddies suggested I get rid of the joggers. There was enough detail around them to do so successfully. Would there have been with an iPhone? (I edited the second image a little bit more also.)
Thoughts welcome.
And of course I welcome your opinions on which of the two images is stronger.

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wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

I like the first one. The sky is too foreboding in the second.

whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.

To me, the best picture is no. 2. Just my opinion.

srg

The first one is a nice street scene.
The second could be a meditation on the impending flight of a soul.

scaudill Loc: Rock Hill, SC

I like the second picture

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Leave the joggers in the photo. The red adds some color to an otherwise dreary, but great, photo.

Dennis

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I like the first more.
The dark cloud in the second is distracting to me.

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

I like #2 better. I like that you got rid of the joggers. You may want to erase the other guy at the gate. I'd be curious to see it in B&W.

tcthome Loc: NJ

I have an iPhone 11, and can't do that. (Would I be able to with a 13… I

Not sure but don't think so. Here is a screen shot of the iphone 13 camera specs/ features from the Apple website. You do know there is a way to adjust the exposure on your iphone 11? Could also check camera specs for the iphone 14.

foodie65

I agree

Bob Yankle Loc: Burlington, NC

Nr. 2 by a wide margin.

vicksart Loc: Novato, CA -earthquake country

Yes. I also prefer the contrast in the first.

Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.

I like no 1 and why remove the joggers? They are a natural part of the scene and give a burst of color

Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.

I like no 1 and why remove the joggers? They are a natural part of the scene and give a burst of color

fredtoo Loc: Houston

Hey, anytime you can catch a bit of red in a photo, then it can make a winner out of what otherwise could be a bit colorless.

I bet the runner would have made another pass if you had asked him.