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Sep 10, 2022 12:49:17   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Guess which state, guess which political party.

1. plan: closing Nuclear power plants.
2. plan: closing gas fired power plants.
3. plan: banning gas powered cars.
4. plan: won't give permits to mine minerals to make batteries for electric vehicles.

Reality: v**ers can't turn on a light or an air conditioner because of power blackouts.

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Sep 10, 2022 14:30:14   #
bgate Loc: Texas
 
ezee-peeze..............CALIFORNIA-BLUE

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Sep 10, 2022 18:07:11   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
bgate wrote:
ezee-peeze..............CALIFORNIA-BLUE


Yep, you got it !!

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Sep 11, 2022 09:31:52   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
travelwp wrote:
Guess which state, guess which political party.

1. plan: closing Nuclear power plants.
2. plan: closing gas fired power plants.
3. plan: banning gas powered cars.
4. plan: won't give permits to mine minerals to make batteries for electric vehicles.

Reality: v**ers can't turn on a light or an air conditioner because of power blackouts.


Oh there is more! I am attaching a pdf of a recent Wall Street Journal article titled: Gavin Newsom's Dirty Energy Secret.

Attached file:
(Download)

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Sep 11, 2022 11:04:46   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
The country’s future? Interesting and disappointing at the same time.

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Sep 11, 2022 12:03:35   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
travelwp wrote:
Guess which state, guess which political party.

1. plan: closing Nuclear power plants.
2. plan: closing gas fired power plants.
3. plan: banning gas powered cars.
4. plan: won't give permits to mine minerals to make batteries for electric vehicles.

Reality: v**ers can't turn on a light or an air conditioner because of power blackouts.


State of confusion. Halloween party

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Sep 11, 2022 14:54:53   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
BobHartung wrote:
I am attaching a pdf of a recent Wall Street Journal article titled: Gavin Newsom's Dirty Energy Secret.


An excellent article !

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Sep 11, 2022 18:01:20   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
The rise in natural gas prices have doubled energy cost in Ohio. We are now at 12 cents a kw hour. We were at 6 when the Dems took over and cut production. Our country is fast falling to the fate if the other countries that have bought into c*****e c****e. The scientist just found that 55 million years ago co2 was 3 times what it is now. Not sure why we are still here. Lol

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Sep 11, 2022 19:10:18   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
The rise in natural gas prices have doubled energy cost in Ohio. We are now at 12 cents a kw hour. We were at 6 when the Dems took over and cut production. Our country is fast falling to the fate if the other countries that have bought into c*****e c****e. The scientist just found that 55 million years ago co2 was 3 times what it is now. Not sure why we are still here. Lol


Well, we weren’t here 55 million years ago, at least I think. But considering the higher concentration 55 million years ago, I wonder how those animals survived. Perhaps they evolved. Funny concept.

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Sep 11, 2022 19:35:49   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
Nalu wrote:
Well, we weren’t here 55 million years ago, at least I think. But considering the higher concentration 55 million years ago, I wonder how those animals survived. Perhaps they evolved. Funny concept.


I thought it was interesting because we know the plant life was much more abundant and we know that the world didn't become a desert and we know the average temps were higher. So who knows but I do know our greatest issue right now is solar storms from the sun. We can basically be sitting in the dark for months if not years if we have another Carrington effect.

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Sep 11, 2022 19:54:51   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
I thought it was interesting because we know the plant life was much more abundant and we know that the world didn't become a desert and we know the average temps were higher. So who knows but I do know our greatest issue right now is solar storms from the sun. We can basically be sitting in the dark for months if not years if we have another Carrington effect.


How well with all those solar gen stations work in such an event?

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Sep 11, 2022 19:59:43   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
I thought it was interesting because we know the plant life was much more abundant and we know that the world didn't become a desert and we know the average temps were higher. So who knows but I do know our greatest issue right now is solar storms from the sun. We can basically be sitting in the dark for months if not years if we have another Carrington effect.


Solar storm possibilities. Repeated Carrington Event (*) possibility? —[Fry-baby-fry].

Magnetic pole reversal and loss of radiation-protecting magnetic field? —[Fry-again].

Alteration of ozone-layer — increased ultraviolet radiation? —[sun-screen, SPF 1200 anyone?].

Temperature extremes?

Potential Increase precipitation and major storm activity? [Temperature-induced evaporation]

Unknown increase/decrease in oxygen production? [potential large increase (**)].

Unknown potential for methane release of frozen methane-hydrates?

Oh there is potential for major problems!

(*) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event

(**) https://forces.si.edu/atmosphere/02_02_06.html
”As plants became firmly established on land, life once again had a major effect on Earth’s atmosphere during the Carboniferous Period. Oxygen made up 20 percent of the atmosphere—about today’s level—around 350 million years ago, and it rose to as much as 35 percent over the next 50 million years.”

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Sep 11, 2022 21:54:39   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
Wyantry wrote:
Solar storm possibilities. Repeated Carrington Event (*) possibility? —[Fry-baby-fry].

Magnetic pole reversal and loss of radiation-protecting magnetic field? —[Fry-again].

Alteration of ozone-layer — increased ultraviolet radiation? —[sun-screen, SPF 1200 anyone?].

Temperature extremes?

Potential Increase precipitation and major storm activity? [Temperature-induced evaporation]

Unknown increase/decrease in oxygen production? [potential large increase (**)].

Unknown potential for methane release of frozen methane-hydrates?

Oh there is potential for major problems!

(*) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event

(**) https://forces.si.edu/atmosphere/02_02_06.html
”As plants became firmly established on land, life once again had a major effect on Earth’s atmosphere during the Carboniferous Period. Oxygen made up 20 percent of the atmosphere—about today’s level—around 350 million years ago, and it rose to as much as 35 percent over the next 50 million years.”
Solar storm possibilities. Repeated Carrington Eve... (show quote)


don’t let on to the california politicians, they will start writing laws to protect us from it.

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Sep 11, 2022 23:07:38   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Nalu wrote:
don’t let on to the california politicians, they will start writing laws to protect us from it.


A major problem seems to be somewhat rational persons are getting out of Kommifornia.
But they are not TOO rational, as they migrate to locations without the “benefits” of Kalifornia Kulture — and then d**g all that baggage along to their new locations — demanding services and amenities they had provided for them by their previous liberal and socialistic Nany-State.

As it is, these individuals by-and-large, have no choice: they have proceeded toward the sunset about as far as they can go. The ocean is serving as another natural barrier.

Just as the Appalachian Mountains acted for the first white settlers. Lots of people “piled-up” and did not cross the mountains.

Just as the Mississippi River acted as a barrier, with people “piling-up” along the river.

Just as the Rocky Mountains acted as a barrier, and “piling-up” another mass of humanity along the Eastern slope of the Rockies.

Now the lemming-like Western movement has reached another barrier, and the detritus is “piling-up” along the shore.

It is regrettable there is no large island out in the Pacific where the Westward migration of these types of persons could be absorbed.

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Sep 13, 2022 00:46:38   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
travelwp wrote:
Guess which state, guess which political party.

1. plan: closing Nuclear power plants.
2. plan: closing gas fired power plants.
3. plan: banning gas powered cars.
4. plan: won't give permits to mine minerals to make batteries for electric vehicles.

Reality: v**ers can't turn on a light or an air conditioner because of power blackouts.


Ignorance must really be bliss!!!!
1) Those nuclear power plants were not designed nor made for longevity
Remember Gov Pete Wilson? He took the money set aside for repairs and decommissioning-
declared it an asset, and sold the fund to a political ally at a wonderful discount.
2) The gas plants were designed in the age of cheap and plentiful fuel. Guess what?
3) NOT banning gas cars, just new ones after a certain year.
Manufacturers refuse to make vehicles with extended longevity. The infra structure for f****l f**ls
is aging, leaking and contaminating the air and water supply- and no one is liable. We will have less
old tanker trucks spewing fumes and fuel over our roads. Seen the videos of these things in accidents?
4) The Corps doing the mining have a history of disappearing leaving us with pools of mercury,
mountains of tailings, and huge swaths of natural beauty converted to poisonous wastelands.

Maybe it seems natural to you.
Many years of being Philly's toilet.
Decades of being NYC's trashcan.
And a tradition of being the place to dump chemical waste.
Spare us.

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