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Nov 5, 2012 16:59:02   #
roycebair Loc: Utah, USA
 
NikonJohn wrote:
I like the movement in the second one but the outside is overexposed. Can you put the windows from the first one into the steam engine of the second one with layering in Photoshop? Or combine them into an HDR image?


I disagree. At first I thought of doing the same thing (sometimes I'm tempted to tweak too much). However, this photo is NOT about the background (the windows), it about the MACHINE! The 2nd exposure is right-on. Perfect movement and shadow detail on the machine by the slight over-exposure. To heck with the windows.

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Nov 5, 2012 17:54:17   #
Straightshooter Loc: Edmonton AB
 
roycebair wrote:
NikonJohn wrote:
I like the movement in the second one but the outside is overexposed. Can you put the windows from the first one into the steam engine of the second one with layering in Photoshop? Or combine them into an HDR image?


I disagree. At first I thought of doing the same thing (sometimes I'm tempted to tweak too much). However, this photo is NOT about the background (the windows), it about the MACHINE! The 2nd exposure is right-on. Perfect movement and shadow detail on the machine by the slight over-exposure. To heck with the windows.
quote=NikonJohn I like the movement in the second... (show quote)


Thanks for the input

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Nov 5, 2012 18:03:30   #
robbygb Loc: UK
 
Straightshooter wrote:
Wich one is best


#1 looks good to me!!
:thumbup:

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Nov 5, 2012 18:16:24   #
Haveago Loc: Swindon, Wiltshire. UK.
 
Granddad wrote:
Without a ND filter I would have metered for the outside light and used fill flash to bring out the features in the wheel.


Hi Grandad I think yr's is the better option, purely my opinion obviously. Never mind using PShop or anything else just try using yr knowledge or the camera's to make an ideal photograph not an application.

Baz

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Nov 5, 2012 18:17:31   #
Haveago Loc: Swindon, Wiltshire. UK.
 
roycebair wrote:
NikonJohn wrote:
I like the movement in the second one but the outside is overexposed. Can you put the windows from the first one into the steam engine of the second one with layering in Photoshop? Or combine them into an HDR image?


I disagree. At first I thought of doing the same thing (sometimes I'm tempted to tweak too much). However, this photo is NOT about the background (the windows), it about the MACHINE! The 2nd exposure is right-on. Perfect movement and shadow detail on the machine by the slight over-exposure. To heck with the windows.
quote=NikonJohn I like the movement in the second... (show quote)


My sentiments exactly.

Baz

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Nov 5, 2012 19:36:40   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
Straightshooter wrote:
Which one is best
I think a 3-shot autobracket +2eV with HDR in post might do what you want.

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Nov 5, 2012 19:41:36   #
Haveago Loc: Swindon, Wiltshire. UK.
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Straightshooter wrote:
Which one is best
I think a 3-shot autobracket +2eV with HDR in post might do what you want.


Ha sorry Merlin too heavy for me man if you know what I mean. :-). only been doing experimental photography for a short time.

Baz

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Nov 5, 2012 19:59:09   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
Haveago wrote:
Merlin1300 wrote:
Straightshooter wrote:
Which one is best
I think a 3-shot autobracket +2eV with HDR in post might do what you want.
Ha sorry Merlin too heavy for me man if you know what I mean. :-). only been doing experimental photography for a short time. Baz
It's just another toy :-) I don't think Fill Flash would have done what the OP wanted - as it would have brightened the wheel - but also would have frozen it in place. I don't know how a ND filter would have fixed the problem either because of the wide variation in brightnesses - even with the ND filter - if your shutter is slow enough to capture proper exposure on the wheel, the windows will be blown out. The wheel is underexposed and the windows are overexposed. Fill flash would have frozen the wheel - so unless you had an external constant lighting source to illuminate the wheel - I think HDR might have been the only choice?

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Nov 5, 2012 21:09:48   #
Straightshooter Loc: Edmonton AB
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Haveago wrote:
Merlin1300 wrote:
Straightshooter wrote:
Which one is best
I think a 3-shot autobracket +2eV with HDR in post might do what you want.
Ha sorry Merlin too heavy for me man if you know what I mean. :-). only been doing experimental photography for a short time. Baz
It's just another toy :-) I don't think Fill Flash would have done what the OP wanted - as it would have brightened the wheel - but also would have frozen it in place. I don't know how a ND filter would have fixed the problem either because of the wide variation in brightnesses - even with the ND filter - if your shutter is slow enough to capture proper exposure on the wheel, the windows will be blown out. The wheel is underexposed and the windows are overexposed. Fill flash would have frozen the wheel - so unless you had an external constant lighting source to illuminate the wheel - I think HDR might have been the only choice?
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Thank you all for your input. It has been a real eye opener

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Nov 10, 2012 08:21:14   #
NikonJohn Loc: Indiana U.S.A.
 
roycebair wrote:
NikonJohn wrote:
I like the movement in the second one but the outside is overexposed. Can you put the windows from the first one into the steam engine of the second one with layering in Photoshop? Or combine them into an HDR image?


I disagree. At first I thought of doing the same thing (sometimes I'm tempted to tweak too much). However, this photo is NOT about the background (the windows), it about the MACHINE! The 2nd exposure is right-on. Perfect movement and shadow detail on the machine by the slight over-exposure. To heck with the windows.
quote=NikonJohn I like the movement in the second... (show quote)


That's fine, I just thought the blown-out windows were distracting, they draw the eye from the subject by their brightness. In the end it's just opinion. ;)

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