Third Party Lenses
Aug 31, 2022 07:42:40 #
Nikon is encouraging Tamron to make Z lenses, and Canon is telling companies to stop making lenses for their mirrorless cameras.
Aug 31, 2022 10:25:28 #
CliffMcKenzie
Loc: Lake Athens Texas
Jerry, interesting the two approaches. Several years ago, Toyota showed a concept car and then decided to bring it to market, but only limitedly. They knew that the run would be short and they would not introduce any major changes during its 7 year life cycle. The 2007-14 F J Cruiser has almost entirely interchangeable parts. For the most part, only paint colors for different years distinguish models. What Toyota did differently (tie to this subject) is they published all key information to the third party after market before the first Cruiser ever hit the street. Today, the used F J Cruiser is worth almost twice its original sticker price.
Aug 31, 2022 13:22:00 #
Aug 31, 2022 15:51:54 #
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
Jerry, interesting the two approaches. Several ye... (show quote)
The fact that the car is worth more today doesn't benefit Toyota.
Aug 31, 2022 22:54:12 #
Orphoto
Loc: Oregon
This development is also interesting because historically Nikon has not been willing to share any of their proprietary information with 3rd party manufacturers who have always had to reverse engineer everything.
Along the same lines Nikon has encouraged 2 other companies to start making flash units for their cameras.
Along the same lines Nikon has encouraged 2 other companies to start making flash units for their cameras.
Sep 1, 2022 06:42:53 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Nikon is encouraging Tamron to make Z lenses, and Canon is telling companies to stop making lenses for their mirrorless cameras.
Two totally different approaches.
In the 80's IBM made the first PC and published all specs as a ISA standard. Apple - instead - choose to keep everything propietary and closed.
While it did good to Apple so, it did even better for the PC (not necessary IBM). Today the standard platform (all servers, corporate computers, system controllers, AI inference systems, even Android phones, and YES current Mac's, etc.) is derived from that original IBM PC, while Apple remained relevant only as consumer products in the USA (believe me... down here, close to Antarctica, Mac's are a rarity)
Only time will tell...
Sep 1, 2022 06:46:40 #
Those with longer memories might remember that there were once two video tape formats: Beta (Sony) and VHS (JVC). Sony maintained a closed system, while JVC encouraged everyone and their brother to make VHS video recorders. Guess who won? I’ve been surprised that this lesson doesn’t seem to have had much impact on Japanese camera manufacturers in recent years.
Sep 1, 2022 06:57:02 #
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
Jerry, interesting the two approaches. Several ye... (show quote)
A neighbor still has an F J Cruiser and I Love it and I wish that it would be made again!!!
Sep 1, 2022 07:18:42 #
CliffMcKenzie
Loc: Lake Athens Texas
Greatest photography car ever. At 93k miles+, its next 2K+ mile trip will be a week in Big Bend. I love Jeeps, but since 1992 at 6'5" I am too tall. What Jeep never fully grasped about the FJ is its luggage rack is solid tubular steel making its outer body its roll cage.
Sep 1, 2022 07:59:12 #
Orphoto wrote:
This development is also interesting because historically Nikon has not been willing to share any of their proprietary information with 3rd party manufacturers who have always had to reverse engineer everything.
Along the same lines Nikon has encouraged 2 other companies to start making flash units for their cameras.
Along the same lines Nikon has encouraged 2 other companies to start making flash units for their cameras.
I believe Nikon has gotten out of making flashes alltogether.
As to Canon looks like they are following the Apple model of business.
It will be interesting to see how that turns out.
Sep 1, 2022 08:10:13 #
Maybe they figure more lens's equals more bodies. Since you don't want to keep switching.
Sep 1, 2022 08:35:21 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
jerryc41 wrote:
Nikon is encouraging Tamron to make Z lenses, and Canon is telling companies to stop making lenses for their mirrorless cameras.
Jerry, please supply exact information you have on Nikon encouraging Tamron to make Z lenses instead of Nikon selling Z lenses.
Come on Jerry, back up your statements.
Sep 1, 2022 08:53:11 #
petrochemist
Loc: UK
I didn't need another reason not to buy a Canon R series but they've provided one anyway.
I doubt I'll be getting a Z series either, but I guess it is possible I'll end up with a 7th digital camera mount & Nikon has made a significant step towards being the better option there. :)
I doubt I'll be getting a Z series either, but I guess it is possible I'll end up with a 7th digital camera mount & Nikon has made a significant step towards being the better option there. :)
Sep 1, 2022 09:29:09 #
I know we got off the photo subject but I just wanted to reply to the guy whos heading to BB. I live in Fort Worth and go down a couple of time a year, if youre in the FJ ( I own a 10) take the trip to the old Marichal mine. Great photo opprutunity there. Im going down in Nov. for the Terlingua Chili contests. If youve never been and need some info drop me a private email.
Sep 1, 2022 09:32:53 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Nikon is encouraging Tamron to make Z lenses, and Canon is telling companies to stop making lenses for their mirrorless cameras.
Probably a bad move for Canon. But they have a history of forcing issues. They are probably unhappy with the market gains Sony and Fuji have made in the last couple of years.
They should know better from the experiences of Sony and Apple. Sony learned their lesson from the Beta VCR and continued on to purchase/merge with Columbia Pictures, Columbia Records, Minolta, and manufacture ICs. And Camera Sensors for many other companies such as Nikon and Pentax. Apple makes nearly all their money from non-MAC handheld devices today.
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