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Aug 8, 2022 10:28:04   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Wannabe63,
I’m not sure anyone answered your question. So I will try.

Bracketing is taking multiple frames wile varying an adjustment between frames. There are many types of bracketing such as exposure, flash, focus, DOF.

Bracketing has multiple uses.

HDR uses exposure bracketing and a computer program to combine multiple frames to yield a greater range of exposure than possible when using a single frame.

As to which looks more natural, THAT depends on the artist.

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Aug 8, 2022 10:31:24   #
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pecohen wrote:
I am grappling with trying to understand your question since I tend to think of HDR as the likely post-processing to do after a shoot using bracketing.

In times past, bracketing played a big role in "getting the right exposure" (I assume exposure bracketing is what you mean by "bracketing"). But modern cameras do a pretty good job of setting exposure right and the wide depth-of-field with these cameras (shooting RAW) allow PP adjustments if the exposure happens to be little more than a stop wrong.

HDR can be applied to just a single image, becoming just another PP operation, but I've never convinced myself that, used this way, HDR offers any particular advantage. To my mind he real reason for HDR and for exposure bracketing is to capture and process a dynamic range than the camera can capture in a single image.
I am grappling with trying to understand your ques... (show quote)

I agree that the terminology is garbled since the start of this this thread ... the OP did it in the opening post and some have followed along while others resist.

Given the OPs intended question, the thread title itself is all wrong, and it all goes downhill from there.

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Aug 8, 2022 10:51:40   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
JD750 wrote:
Wannabe63,
I’m not sure anyone answered your question. So I will try.

Bracketing is taking multiple frames wile varying an adjustment between frames. There are many types of bracketing such as exposure, flash, focus, DOF.

Bracketing has multiple uses.

HDR uses exposure bracketing and a computer program to combine multiple frames to yield a greater range of exposure than possible when using a single frame.

As to which looks more natural, THAT depends on the artist.
Wannabe63, br I’m not sure anyone answered your ... (show quote)


Well said. I will add that some cameras will produce in camera HDR jpegs from several exposures. I find using an external program to be MUCH more flexible. It is also possible to create a HDR image from a single RAW file by creating several tiff "exposures" in post.

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Aug 9, 2022 08:24:44   #
mmills79 Loc: NJ
 
HDR is a form of bracketing (a composite of multiple images having different exposures) but there is more processing involved than simply merging two or more images. For example HDR software also applies tone mapping, ghost reduction, and alignment to form the composite. Typically HDR software over processes the composite, at least IMO. I find if I back off on some of the adjustments like sharpness, contrast, and the over done color adjustments applied in HDR software, I can get very natural images with a higher dynamic range than I could get from post processing a single image. You can take handheld shots but it is best to use a tripod.

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Aug 11, 2022 10:55:36   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
User ID wrote:
Bracketing is just culling. You keep the least flawed (aka the most acceptable) frame and discard the rest.

HDR is compositing. The software finds the least flawed (aka best rendered) elements or sections from every frame and builds a final single image using those elements.

To your taste, for the images that youve made, 2 stops works best. Thaz "medium steep" but if the shot needs it, it needs it. The example below is that type of scene:
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I have, om occasion, edited each of the files from bracketing before merging.
Lotsa work, interesting results.

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Aug 11, 2022 11:49:13   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
Harry0 wrote:
I have, om occasion, edited each of the files from bracketing before merging.
Lotsa work, interesting results.


If the editing does lens correction, and if there is slight camera movement between shots, it is possible that the images might not align perfectly.

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Aug 11, 2022 18:04:27   #
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fetzler wrote:
Well said. I will add that some cameras will produce in camera HDR jpegs from several exposures. I find using an external program to be MUCH more flexible. It is also possible to create a HDR image from a single RAW file by creating several tiff "exposures" in post.

Isnt that simply layering your edits ?

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Aug 11, 2022 18:06:16   #
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mmills79 wrote:
HDR is a form of bracketing (a composite of multiple images having different exposures) but there is more processing involved than simply merging two or more images. For example HDR software also applies tone mapping, ghost reduction, and alignment to form the composite. Typically HDR software over processes the composite, at least IMO. I find if I back off on some of the adjustments like sharpness, contrast, and the over done color adjustments applied in HDR software, I can get very natural images with a higher dynamic range than I could get from post processing a single image. You can take handheld shots but it is best to use a tripod.
HDR is a form of bracketing (a composite of multip... (show quote)


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Aug 11, 2022 18:07:46   #
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JimH123 wrote:
If the editing does lens correction, and if there is slight camera movement between shots, it is possible that the images might not align perfectly.


Not perfect ? Not a problem.

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Aug 11, 2022 18:14:55   #
jcboy3
 
wannabe63 wrote:
I reviewed past UHH discussions concerning the topic and never quite read anything that addresses my question. I'm trying to wrap my brain around these two techniques. Which one produces the most natural looking image? I've experimented with both and it seems like bracketing provided the best exposure, IMO. I used a D750 and took 5 shots using 2 exposure stops between each. Isn't HDR a form of bracketing? So why the difference in IQ?


Bracketing is taking exposures at various EV. These can be merged, or simply used to provide a selection of a single image.

HDR merge is merging the bracketed exposures into a single image.

Tone-mapping is the process of mapping one set of colors to another to simulate the appearance of high dynamic range images.

High dynamic range has to be converted into a range that is viewable; the trick is to make that conversion look realistic. There are methods that result in realistic images, and there are messages that result in unrealistic images. Tone-mapping is one of those techniques that often produces unrealistic images, and has often been confused with HDR.

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Aug 11, 2022 21:17:39   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
If you think movement can destroy your HDR, consider using Photomatix. I have for years and found it will compensate. The today's version will fix even a person walking.

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