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Aug 5, 2022 14:05:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Yeah, massive difference with the eco tank ink. I consider it free ink it's so cheap, at least when printing colored text files.
For disks, I use DVD labels and an old CD label contraption to stick the labels on the disks. I use to use SURETHING label maker but somewhere along the line it didn't make it through the WiN "upgrades" and now I use an old NERO label maker that is a bit of a challenge to use. At one time I had a printer that did disks but I think I only used it once, and went back to the stick on CD labels.
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Yeah, Surething is great - very flexible. I used to print on paper labels, but I prefer the white disks - the kind that are hub printable. Something like below. I've used every brand I've seen, and they all seem to work equally well, both for accepting the ink and for playing the music or video. The one below comes in a cakebox, but I've never tried putting cake in them. : )

https://www.amazon.com/HIDISC-700MB-Inkjet-Printable-Recordable/dp/B09W5GG7WM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=FRMFRNT662UP&keywords=hub+printable+discs&qid=1659722615&sprefix=hub+printable+disks%2Caps%2C74&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNUJNVjFROE8xUk8mZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA5Mzc5NDJWMUtTNFBKSzQyTjImZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDk1Nzc2ODM2QUhORVRERFVVSDAmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

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Aug 5, 2022 15:15:06   #
CaltechNerd Loc: Whittier, CA, USA
 
StanMac wrote:
Makes me wonder why the ink cartridges are still so expensive. I’m sure the ink used in them is not that much more costly to produce (probably the same ink as in the bottles) and the cartridges themselves don’t appear to be an elaborate piece of machinery.

Stan

The mechanism isn't all that simple. It's the precision nozzle and the electronics to control how much ink gets emitted at each point. It's expensive enough that HP has a large processing center to pop out the jet and recover the expensive metals used in it.

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Aug 6, 2022 11:36:33   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Red6 wrote:
I think that is the point that I made above. In the Epson printers, I think the ink-jet nozzles are built into the printer head and ink is fed to the nozzles from the ink tanks. Then if the nozzles clog the printer is either junk or it is expensive to clean or replace them.

In most of the cartridge models, the replaceable ink tank (cartridge) also contains the ink jet nozzles and the associated electronics and mechanism to push the ink out. Get a new cartridge/ink tank and you get brand new nozzles.

In both cases the ink is the minor cost. The real expense in the cartirdge models are the new nozzles and mechanisms surrounding the nozzles.

I have also read some articles some time ago that made the claim that in printers where the nozzles were not replaced on a regular basis that quality may suffer as the nozzles experienced wear and dried ink residue built up around and inside the nozzles. These nozzles are nearly microscopic so it would not take much residue to cause some type of issue.
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That may be so on some printers but not my Epson. The cartridges have a plastic membrane that is pierced when the cartridge is pressed into position and through which the ink flows to the print head.

Stan

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Aug 7, 2022 06:25:46   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
Red6 wrote:
I have not owned an Epson printer for several years. I purchased one several years ago when it was the only one available to me at the time and was very disappointed. The quality was good but if you did not print on a regular basis the ink nozzles would plug up. Even going a week without printing, the nozzles would be plugged at first and require several test pages to clear.

Finally, after a period of several weeks that I did not print, the nozzles would not clear and I had to get rid of the printer. The cost of replacing the nozzles was more than the cost of a new printer. That was the last Epson I had.

In the cartridge models, the nozzles are replaced each time an ink cartridge is replaced. And for some reason, even after skipping several weeks on not printing the nozzles on these printers have never been plugged.

Are the newer Epsons better in this respect? The new Eco models are attractive from the standpoint of the ink costs but if nozzle plugging is still an issue then I am not interested.
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I've left my Eco tank go for a couple months at a time generally Nov and December (Santa is too busy for printing) but after the holiday season I have no problem in fact I do most of my photo printing right after the Christmas season since family wants pictures from the season plus I give a few 8x10 prints to a few of my corporate jobs.

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Aug 7, 2022 08:26:57   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
chikid68 wrote:
I've left my Eco tank go for a couple months at a time generally Nov and December (Santa is too busy for printing) but after the holiday season I have no problem in fact I do most of my photo printing right after the Christmas season since family wants pictures from the season plus I give a few 8x10 prints to a few of my corporate jobs.


I seldom print pictures, and the Epson seldom sits for more than a day. I have left printers unused for several weeks, and they printed fine. On the other hand, I have several Canon 4500 printers. It was nice being able to use one type of cartridge for all my printers. For some reason, the print head went bad in all of them at the same time. I cleaned everything, but they still wouldn't print. I can't bring myself to dispose of them.

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Aug 7, 2022 09:18:05   #
FreddB Loc: PA - Delaware County
 
StanMac wrote:
Makes me wonder why the ink cartridges are still so expensive. I’m sure the ink used in them is not that much more costly to produce (probably the same ink as in the bottles) and the cartridges themselves don’t appear to be an elaborate piece of machinery.

Stan


Paying for the packaging - the norm when you buy small packages of anything 🤬

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Aug 7, 2022 15:52:27   #
Moondoggie Loc: Southern California
 
Jerry, I have an Epson ET-3750. IT came with an extra set of ink bottles. The magenta color is off, but I don't use this as a photo printer but its great for my weekly requirements and uses very little ink in my opinion.

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Aug 7, 2022 16:01:33   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Moondoggie wrote:
Jerry, I have an Epson ET-3750. IT came with an extra set of ink bottles. The magenta color is off, but I don't use this as a photo printer but its great for my weekly requirements and uses very little ink in my opinion.


I just hope that Epson doesn't start charging $200 for a set of ink.

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