Kansas Sends A Message: Very conservative Kansas v**ed yesterday to preserve a woman's right to a******n in their state constitution. Roughly twice as many people v**ed compared to the...

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

Very conservative Kansas v**ed yesterday to preserve a woman's right to a******n in their state constitution. Roughly twice as many people v**ed compared to the turnout in the 2018 primary. Amazing numbers. T***p w*n Kansas by 15 points in 2020. A******n rights won by an overwhelming margin of 59-41. Red state Kansas just sent a very big message.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

gorgehiker wrote:

Very conservative Kansas v**ed yesterday to preserve a woman's right to a******n in their state constitution. Roughly twice as many people v**ed compared to the turnout in the 2018 primary. Amazing numbers. T***p w*n Kansas by 15 points in 2020. A******n rights won by an overwhelming margin of 59-41. Red state Kansas just sent a very big message.

Amazing what can happen when citizens are permitted to decide in a Constitutional fashion, as opposed to laws being created by judicial edict. That should be the message.

tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio

Who are they sending the message to?

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

tradio wrote:

Who are they sending the message to?

Ok, I will try to explain this to you. Politically astute people realize that the message is that the SCOTUS decision overturning Roe is very unpopular. Kansans sent a clear message that they do not want their extremist state legislature to enact laws that ban a******n. Another message is that the a******n issue inspires pro- choice v**ers to get to the polls.

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

David Martin wrote:

Amazing what can happen when citizens are permitted to decide in a Constitutional fashion, as opposed to laws being created by judicial edict. That should be the message.

Exactly right!!!

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

gorgehiker wrote:

Ok, I will try to explain this to you. Politically astute people realize that the message is that the SCOTUS decision overturning Roe is very unpopular. Kansans sent a clear message that they do not want their extremist state legislature to enact laws that ban a******n. Another message is that the a******n issue inspires pro- choice v**ers to get to the polls.

Politically astute people with commonsense realize that the original SCOTUS decisions in Roe was very unpopular and that the whole issue should have been handled in Legislation in the first place, not the SCOTUS.

Rose42

gorgehiker wrote:

Ok, I will try to explain this to you. Politically astute people realize that the message is that the SCOTUS decision overturning Roe is very unpopular. Kansans sent a clear message that they do not want their extremist state legislature to enact laws that ban a******n. Another message is that the a******n issue inspires pro- choice v**ers to get to the polls.

The message is - they support depravity.

Decisions aren’t supposed to be a popularity contest. Its no coincidence that the pro a******n people try and rationalize it that way

However if the v**ers say women can have an a******n then they can.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

gorgehiker wrote:

Ok, I will try to explain this to you. Politically astute people realize that the message is that the SCOTUS decision overturning Roe is very unpopular. Kansans sent a clear message that they do not want their extremist state legislature to enact laws that ban a******n. Another message is that the a******n issue inspires pro- choice v**ers to get to the polls.

Wait, then why were you Lefties so outraged at SCOTUS for overturning Roe v Wade? You Lefties were so opposed to democracy at that time, but you are ok with it now? I have no problems with citizens of the state v****g to keep this in their Constitution even though I oppose a******n. Let each states citizens v**e.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

gorgehiker wrote:

Ok, I will try to explain this to you. Politically astute people realize that the message is that the SCOTUS decision overturning Roe is very unpopular. Kansans sent a clear message that they do not want their extremist state legislature to enact laws that ban a******n. Another message is that the a******n issue inspires pro- choice v**ers to get to the polls.

I have to say that the somber, reasonable tone we're hearing now is a nice change from the usual ... "Baby k**lers!!"

MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City

tradio wrote:

Who are they sending the message to?

That would be "to whom".

MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City

Rose42 wrote:

The message is - they support depravity.

Decisions aren’t supposed to be a popularity contest. Its no coincidence that the pro a******n people try and rationalize it that way

However if the v**ers say women can have an a******n then they can.

That should be "try to"!

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Even in strong Republican states, women want/need to control their bodies, their lives. Forced birth will never be acceptable.

jcboy3

Racmanaz wrote:

Wait, then why were you Lefties so outraged at SCOTUS for overturning Roe v Wade? You Lefties were so opposed to democracy at that time, but you are ok with it now? I have no problems with citizens of the state v****g to keep this in their Constitution even though I oppose a******n. Let each states citizens v**e.

We would still have s***ery if that were the case.

If you can't find a right to individual liberty in the Constitution, then it's worthless.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

David Martin wrote:

Amazing what can happen when citizens are permitted to decide in a Constitutional fashion, as opposed to laws being created by judicial edict. That should be the message.

In this case the fear that drove the v**e was not judges but rather the Kansas legislature.

Amazing that citizens re-elect. Representative that don’t represent the citizens views.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

tradio wrote:

Who are they sending the message to?

Their legislators who proposed the amendment