And from a fairly famous landscape photographer too.
Now go back through my topics and find the one where I was...well I was crying like a baby because I lost out to HDR images(I can admit that now)
I wonder if this will set a prescident for future photography contests.
I wonder how much was too much?
It would depend on what were the goals, intents, and rules of the competition. My personal bias is towards the look and feel of a photo rather than being limited to a technically correct photo straight out of camera. Thus, I use post processing (e.g. LR, Nik, and OnOne). I don't know how acceptable are these and don't care. They help me express myself and if competition doesn't allow them, then I wouldn't submit them.
russelray wrote:
I wonder how much was too much?
russelray wrote:
I wonder how much was too much?
Yeah. It would be interesting to see the shot before the PP.
I love the shot and think the judges were crazy. How can one tell the amount of post work that was done.
This would be like rejecting A. Adams work because of too much dark room work.
If we are to kick out post work let go back to shooting with a Brownie.
I wonder if they kick out a painting for using too much paint or using the wrong color.
Unless the rules of the competition stated 'absolutely no PP allowed' it's a crock. It's a great photo, whether procressed in-camera or by Photoshop.
Treepusher wrote:
Unless the rules of the competition stated 'absolutely no PP allowed' it's a crock. It's a great photo, whether procressed in-camera or by Photoshop.
Maybe they should state that no Dslr can be used only point and shoot.
Art is art and it is up to the artist to create the work and then the viewer accept or reject the finish work.
I don't care for modern art painting, but others do.
Maybe they should state that no images taken with a 10 mp camera or over will be accepted; because most people don't have that expensive equipment.
philo wrote:
Treepusher wrote:
Unless the rules of the competition stated 'absolutely no PP allowed' it's a crock. It's a great photo, whether procressed in-camera or by Photoshop.
Maybe they should state that no Dslr can be used only point and shoot.
Art is art and it is up to the artist to create the work and then the viewer accept or reject the finish work.
I don't care for modern art painting, but others do.
Maybe they should state that no images taken with a 10 mp camera or over will be accepted; because most people don't have that expensive equipment.
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I read the other day on the internet that in the next photo contest Nikon will not accept photos from film cameras for their yearly competition ( and they still manufacture film cameras) so I guess there is unfairness both ways.
What if the two boat hull were not on the same beach, and he inserted one and cloned the background to allow the two hulls to appear in the same image? Without saying what the Photoshopping was, the questions will continue. I think rightly so. It is a beautiful image, but perhaps contests need to define what a photograph is. Is a photograph a capture of a spot in a moment in time? Or was this image purely art - the image, how it evokes an emotion in the viewer? I think there is room for both, but the contests should state whether both are welcome and what the qualifications are.
Photoquilter wrote:
What if the two boat hull were not on the same beach, and he inserted one and cloned the background to allow the two hulls to appear in the same image? Without saying what the Photoshopping was, the questions will continue. I think rightly so. It is a beautiful image, but perhaps contests need to define what a photograph is. Is a photograph a capture of a spot in a moment in time? Or was this image purely art - the image, how it evokes an emotion in the viewer? I think there is room for both, but the contests should state whether both are welcome and what the qualifications are.
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I have never had the nerve to enter my photos in any competition but I agree with you 100%.
philo wrote:
I love the shot and think the judges were crazy. How can one tell the amount of post work that was done.
This would be like rejecting A. Adams work because of too much dark room work.
If we are to kick out post work let go back to shooting with a Brownie.
I wonder if they kick out a painting for using too much paint or using the wrong color.
Could not agree more. All kinds of PP went on in the dark rooms of famous photographers. Barring changing the subject content and positioning (and maybe not even barring that), it is the end product that should be judged, not how one got there. In the end it is all technique of the artist, whether painter or photographer, potter or woodworker. IMHO
Photoquilter wrote:
What if the two boat hull were not on the same beach, and he inserted one and cloned the background to allow the two hulls to appear in the same image? Without saying what the Photoshopping was, the questions will continue. I think rightly so. It is a beautiful image, but perhaps contests need to define what a photograph is. Is a photograph a capture of a spot in a moment in time? Or was this image purely art - the image, how it evokes an emotion in the viewer? I think there is room for both, but the contests should state whether both are welcome and what the qualifications are.
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I also agree with this to the extent that contest managers should state whether or not PP changing of subject content or positioning is allowed. Beyond that I don't believe it should matter. Although if the contest managers can tell for certain whether or not any PP occurred and for some strange reason they want absolutely no PP, then they should say so, in my opinion.
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